Policing in America

i♥city said:
www.theguardian.com

Six white ex-Mississippi officers plead guilty to racist assault on two Black men

‘Goon Squad’ burst into a home on 24 January without a warrant and brutalized the two men, shooting one in the mouth
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com






Still on it
www.nbclosangeles.com

How rogue Mississippi officers tried to cover up their torture of 2 Black men

A rogue group of deputies who called themselves “The Goon Squad” burst into the home without a warrant and abused the men before shooting one of them.
www.nbclosangeles.com www.nbclosangeles.com


If the so called "good apples" could only tell on the "bad apples" in the police system then perhaps most wouldn't have the distrust that they have about the cops. Unfortunately that has hardly been the case. I remember a case in LA where a black officer reported the racist elements in his police department only to end up getting fired. It wasn't untik years later when an FBI investigation found out that truky there were officers tied to the KKK and Nazi groups with some of them carefully hiding their gang symbols in plain sight.

These Mississippi officers where well known in their police department and even went by the name goon squad and had committed a lot of atrocities with reports going as far back as 2019 and some how they were still in the police force. Tells you all you need to know about the American police system and the structure it was founded on
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The whole shebang is completely predicated on that fucking ludicrous, anachronistic and misinterpreted bastard of a 2nd amendment
 
i♥city said:
www.theguardian.com

Six white ex-Mississippi officers plead guilty to racist assault on two Black men

‘Goon Squad’ burst into a home on 24 January without a warrant and brutalized the two men, shooting one in the mouth
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com






Still on it
www.nbclosangeles.com

How rogue Mississippi officers tried to cover up their torture of 2 Black men

A rogue group of deputies who called themselves “The Goon Squad” burst into the home without a warrant and abused the men before shooting one of them.
www.nbclosangeles.com www.nbclosangeles.com


If the so called "good apples" could only tell on the "bad apples" in the police system then perhaps most wouldn't have the distrust that they have about the cops. Unfortunately that has hardly been the case. I remember a case in LA where a black officer reported the racist elements in his police department only to end up getting fired. It wasn't untik years later when an FBI investigation found out that truky there were officers tied to the KKK and Nazi groups with some of them carefully hiding their gang symbols in plain sight.

These Mississippi officers where well known in their police department and even went by the name goon squad and had committed a lot of atrocities with reports going as far back as 2019 and some how they were still in the police force. Tells you all you need to know about the American police system and the structure it was founded on
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Unlike the British society and Police force?

Good one.

Bad apples seek power…coercive power, hopefully. It’s the nature of the beast, and certainly not an American monopoly.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Unlike the British society and Police force?

Good one.

Bad apples seek power…coercive power, hopefully. It’s the nature of the beast, and certainly not an American monopoly.
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Makes you wonder where the good apples are. Lots of issues involving minorities and a corrupt police system,you would think these good apples would at least take advantage of one of these situations but no.
 
i♥city said:
Makes you wonder where the good apples are. Lots of issues involving minorities and a corrupt police system,you would think these good apples would at least take advantage of one of these situations but no.
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How many police personnel do you think are on the streets in America, policing a population of 330,000,000?

Answer: Just over 660,000 (0.2% of the population).

Cato Institute's National Police Misconduct Reporting Project (MPMRP) confirm that around one percent of all police officers commit misconduct in a given year.

This is “misconduct,” not strictly a shooting or beating or any type of violence, but some form of misconduct that was reported.

That would be about 6,600 out of 660,000, which is 0.002% of the population.

So, yes, I think there are a few bad apples and that the vast majority (99%, it appears) do not only not commit crimes, but do not commit any form of misconduct in any given year.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
How many police personnel do you think are on the streets in America, policing a population of 330,000,000?

Answer: Just over 660,000 (0.2% of the population).

Cato Institute's National Police Misconduct Reporting Project (MPMRP) confirm that around one percent of all police officers commit misconduct in a given year.

This is “misconduct,” not strictly a shooting or beating or any type of violence, but some form of misconduct that was reported.

That would be about 6,600 out of 660,000, which is 0.002% of the population.

So, yes, I think there are a few bad apples and that the vast majority (99%, it appears) do not only not commit crimes, but do not commit any form of misconduct in any given year.
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There are something like 60-70 million police interactions with civilians in America per year. They result in a two-digit number of people that get killed per year (as far as unarmed people are concerned), and a lot of these are people that are not complying and sometimes even attacking the officers. That leads to errors, and in the American context, you have guns. In comparison, approximately a minimum of 250,000 people in America die due to medical mistakes. They are doing their best under the circumstances and hopefully can improve as a collective with time and more support. Therefore, I would say that just like in any country, in every profession, it's a matter of a few bad apples, but most of them are good guys.
 
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Haaland94 said:
There are something like 60-70 million police interactions with civilians in America per year. They result in a two-digit number of people that get killed per year (as far as unarmed people are concerned), and a lot of these are people that are not complying and sometimes even attacking the officers. That leads to errors, and in the American context, you have guns. In comparison, approximately a minimum of 250,000 people in America die due to medical mistakes. They are doing their best under the circumstances and hopefully can improve as a collective with time and more support. Therefore, I would say that just like in any country, in every profession, it's a matter of a few bad apples, but most of them are good guys.
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And yet, there's vast room for improvement.

Training, hiring practices, increased pay and prestige for officers, interaction with community and so forth.
 
i♥city said:
@ChicagoBlue Some more "bad apples" in the news today. Interestingly the good apples were aware of the actions of these bad apples in the police force and even went as far as giving these bad apples the name "the good squad" yet it never crossed the mind of these good apples to file a report against the bad apples.
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which in any law enforcement agency in the world is where the condemnations comes in - those who see and take no action to stop and report it in my eyes become complicit in the action - they cannot expect not to be condemned themselves
 
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