Political relations between UK-EU

I’m all for making the best of the situation we’re in and realising the opportunities that Brexit presents us with. I’d just like to have an idea what people think those opportunities will be. I’m not talking about vague concepts relating to sovereignty and taking back control. What specifically are we aiming for? What constraints have been removed?
Pesky working hours regulations
 
Fully agree

And nobody will persuade me that had Brexit been managed as a comprehensive change programme then FS wouldn't have either been included or there would be at least evidence of the governance decision to exclude and alternative plans.

It is just true and daft for people to suggest otherwise

You were told 100's of times brexit was being driven by incompetent arseholes. You need to own it. These were your people - you backed them.

Its a shit deal as we all told you it would be. Your people are now moving on to covering up the reality as best they can. It wont work. Brexit is shit and there is no hiding from it.

 
You were told 100's of times brexit was being driven by incompetent arseholes. You need to own it. These were your people - you backed them.

Its a shit deal as we all told you it would be. Your people are now moving on to covering up the reality as best they can. It wont work. Brexit is shit and there is no hiding from it.


As we stare at the lorry queues and empty supermarket shelves is it really too much to ask @mcfc1632 to own this mess? It's the least he can do as far as I am concerned.
 
As we stare at the lorry queues and empty supermarket shelves is it really too much to ask @mcfc1632 to own this mess? It's the least he can do as far as I am concerned.

The least he could do is release a statement apologising to the Scottish seafood industry for their imminent collapse due to export difficulties explaining that its nothing to do with Brexit per se' more an issue created by poor strategic planning and bad management.
 
Appreciate that.
And without having the same sort of experience either yourself or @Saddleworth2 would have, I still have enough experience at business level in change management procedure through my operational and IT support roles through the years and business case budget approval in my latter years.

I suspected all along that it was as haphazard as you imply and also that although you probably think that was a huge bonus for the EU side, I think it was also a source of enormous frustration.
I think the Irish government tried to use very diplomatic language at all times, but not only was it causing frustration but perhaps mistrust also. Maybe that’s just my perception of it. I could be projecting that.

There will be problems as everyone including yourself are saying and there will be negotiations for years, I feel, but that’s diplomacy anyway.

There will be consequences though that I know you have considered worth your own vision of an end game. You’ve said so all along.

We can see it here already with measures being planned for by many companies to bypass Britain.
The same will happen on the continent I’m sure.

It is what it is and we will all get on with it.
Hard to judge anything at the moment with Covid. Wait until things get back to some semblance of normal.
Good post - agree with it all

Will reply more fully when not on the phone
 
You were told 100's of times brexit was being driven by incompetent arseholes. You need to own it. These were your people - you backed them.

Its a shit deal as we all told you it would be. Your people are now moving on to covering up the reality as best they can. It wont work. Brexit is shit and there is no hiding from it.


I actually don’t think either side were right.

It’s certainly not good, but it’s also not totally shite like you, me, remain thought.

It’s just made us a bit more worse off, which I’m sure given the risk of no deal only weeks ago, we’ll all take.

Labour Leave actually said this would happen but it would be worth it, I think if anyone was right, it was the bleeding socialists who wanted to leave, which isn’t easy to admit.
 
The least he could do is release a statement apologising to the Scottish seafood industry for their imminent collapse due to export difficulties explaining that its nothing to do with Brexit per se' more an issue created by poor strategic planning and bad management.
Lack of work streams as an excuse is going to go down well in Tarbert.
 


Bloomberg...

‘The move has been expected. In September, the U.K. confirmed it would introduce the legislation as soon as its equivalence powers came into effect. Exchange operator Cboe Europe has said it’s planning to reintroduce Swiss-listed securities in the U.K. once British and Swiss mutual recognition is implemented.

The U.K. allowing Swiss shares to trade will do little to overcome the exodus of EU shares after Brexit. The three biggest venues in London that handle European shares saw almost all of this business shift into the EU on the first day of trading after the U.K. completed its exit from the bloc on Dec. 31.‘
 

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