Political relations between UK-EU

[aguero93:20]

You do it wrong and it will be as bad as agreeing to a border commission that never had any intention of following up on what it was supposed to do.

Christ when you think about it, Johnson kicking the can down the road with the border in the Irish Sea has a lot of similarities in approach.

For me the modern North needs to be convinced by us that they will have a better future with us. (Perhaps through the EU)
Whatever happens it needs to be permanent.

There was a lot of Protestants down south that were involved in push for a 32 county Ireland in a fairer socialist society that were completely forgotten about and left high and dry when De Valera jumped into bed with the clergy.

There were terrible mistakes made by both sides in the last 100 years.
If there is to be a sustainable future then an objective look at our history is needed. Lessons should be learned including how to deal with untrustworthy British governments.

I did say we need to convince the unionists. I'd rather go federal with the provinces tbh

 

[aguero93:20]

You do it wrong and it will be as bad as agreeing to a border commission that never had any intention of following up on what it was supposed to do.

Christ when you think about it, Johnson kicking the can down the road with the border in the Irish Sea has a lot of similarities in approach.

For me the modern North needs to be convinced by us that they will have a better future with us. (Perhaps through the EU)
Whatever happens it needs to be permanent.

There was a lot of Protestants down south that were involved in push for a 32 county Ireland in a fairer socialist society that were completely forgotten about and left high and dry when De Valera jumped into bed with the clergy.

There were terrible mistakes made by both sides in the last 100 years.
If there is to be a sustainable future then an objective look at our history is needed. Lessons should be learned including how to deal with untrustworthy British governments.

And Dev was a ****.

 

[Ban-jani]

As I said, a decade.

We’ll reconvene on your 45th birthday then, sir.

 

[aguero93:20]

We’ll reconvene on your 45th birthday then, sir.

So we will, tenner bet?

 

[Ban-jani]

For my Irish in-laws it’s very much a case of when rather than if, but the economic aspect of it is a massive factor in when the right time will be.

That depends on which side of the argument they sit.

My friend’s wife says never.

My Catholic pal from Belfast says now.

 

[Ban-jani]

So we will, tenner bet?

Done, but I want it in Pound Sterling, not Euros...

... hopefully the Pound will still be worth more ;-)

 

[aguero93:20]

Done, but I want it in Pound Sterling, not Euros...

... hopefully the Pound will still be worth more ;-)

*virtual hand shake*

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I did say we need to convince the unionists. I'd rather go federal with the provinces tbh

Like your thinking.


Could even let Scotland join us in the Federal Union of Celtic Kinsmen.

That’s FUCKers for short.

 

[aguero93:20]

Like your thinking.

Makes sense tbf. Kerry and Cork would be happier, Belfast and Dublin should be in charge of their own provinces, same with Mayo and Galway.

 

[meltonblue]

Well - sorry - it really is the case and their responsibility/failing.

I did explain the reasons in my long post earlier - e.g. the requirement for such visa or exemptions would have been registered within the HO programme plan and options for a solution identified years ago. Then it would have been within the scope of the negotiations.

But May/Hammond prevented that happening.

But too late for me to go into that again in detail - maybe tomorrow

That makes absolutely no sense though. Scope of negotiations of what? It was always going to be part of the future deal negotiations which couldn’t start until there was a withdrawal agreement in place. They didn’t have any input into our requirements for that at all, it was long past their time.

It’s not just one programme, it never has been, it’s always been two - the WA then the future deal. Visa arrangements have changed between the two, as they were always going to. May and Robbins have absolutely nothing to do with what we’ve decided to do as part of this deal though.