Political relations between UK-EU

hampshireblue said:
Welsh ports like Holyhead are really struggling. The major route form Eire to EU was via the UK. This appeara to be drying up and Stena line have just started a Dublin-Cherbourg ferry for the first time and many hauliers are now diverting onto that route. Small fry you may say but it all sucks money from our economy be it form service station stops or lorries not refuelling in the UK and so loss of taxes.
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Well, only to counter the bloviator's insults that I knew nothing, could I just repeat my post from August 2019 about direct sailings Ireland to the EU?

"It's one good thing to come out of Brexit - fewer HGVs on the M6 and M62 (and should make our trip to Norwich easier without all those Irish lorries heading for Felixstowe). Not so good for transport cafes on the route."

And last November:

"It would be interesting to tot up the benefit of the land bridge to the English economy. Service stations, transport cafes, tax on fuel bought in the UK...

Big benefit for air quality on the A55 / M62, M6, A14. 'Brexit boost for Brum as EU lorries take to the seas.'" I maybe didn't think it would also affect ro-ro via Dover to the same extent.

And the current problems are compounded because the "deal" was left to the last minute. If they really were delaying in the hope that the EU would "move" if we proved we were stupid enough to think we had a viable no-deal option, then Frost and Co are actually guilty of a misjudgment that is already costing us dear.
 
The deal removes the UK as a transit and distribution hub and supply chains will reconfigure around the UK cutting us out. In theory UK business could band together and finance EU based transit and distribution hubs to cut down their export costs, but there are still going to be additional costs including the cost of the hub. Not sure if that solution helps with foodstuffs that are time sensitive.

The EU are going to be indifferent to our problems and the Govt will have no appetite to try and change things, likely their focus will be on how to ‘take advantage’ of our new found independence without attracting tariff penalties (Nissan) under the deal. Given the Govt‘s legendary competence I would suggest not holding your breath on the brilliant wheezes Johnson and his chums cook up.

The Telegraph today blamed Merkel for Brexit, proving that our ability to avoid responsibility for our own actions is undiminished, although I was confused as to why ‘blame’ was attached. I would have thought they would be thanking her.
 
BobKowalski said:
The deal removes the UK as a transit and distribution hub and supply chains will reconfigure around the UK cutting us out. In theory UK business could band together and finance EU based transit and distribution hubs to cut down their export costs, but there are still going to be additional costs including the cost of the hub. Not sure if that solution helps with foodstuffs that are time sensitive.

The EU are going to be indifferent to our problems and the Govt will have no appetite to try and change things, likely their focus will be on how to ‘take advantage’ of our new found independence without attracting tariff penalties (Nissan) under the deal. Given the Govt‘s legendary competence I would suggest not holding your breath on the brilliant wheezes Johnson and his chums cook up.

The Telegraph today blamed Merkel for Brexit, proving that our ability to avoid responsibility for our own actions is undiminished, although I was confused as to why ‘blame’ was attached. I would have thought they would be thanking her.
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Well it was always going to be the fault of the remainers and foreigners when it all went to rat shit. I didn't think it would happen within a month though. But remember, they knew what tehy were voting for!
 
hampshireblue said:
Welsh ports like Holyhead are really struggling. The major route form Eire to EU was via the UK. This appeara to be drying up and Stena line have just started a Dublin-Cherbourg ferry for the first time and many hauliers are now diverting onto that route. Small fry you may say but it all sucks money from our economy be it form service station stops or lorries not refuelling in the UK and so loss of taxes.
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Guess what? Turns out we did need them more than they need us................
 
Ban-jani said:
My entire point is there is practically zero impact on the daily lives of most people.

Only really immigration as a positive and a small number of people economically as a negative.
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It's going to be a drip drip effect as it was always going to be. The odd 5% price rise here and there, investment going elsewhere etc. And as for immigration, what will change is not the numbers but the origin of those people who come here and invariably end up doing the jobs our own don't want to do. And let's not forget, the country being out of the EU is meant to be better, not the same, better.
 
hampshireblue said:
It's going to be a drip drip effect as it was always going to be. The odd 5% price rise here and there, investment going elsewhere etc. And as for immigration, what will change is not the numbers but the origin of those people who come here and invariably end up doing the jobs our own don't want to do. And let's not forget, the country being out of the EU is meant to be better, not the same, better.
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The numbers will drastically change, anyone who has seen the policy knows that.
 
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