Political relations between UK-EU

[Ric]

Sounds like EU rolling back on Article 16, thankfully

That’s good news, but they’ve handled this whole affair shambolically.

 

[03 March 2002]

Your second sentence is just simply not true and also contradicts the contract. There’s always been planned distribution to the EU from the U.K. sites and vice versatility, the company I work for does some of the logistics for it.

You’re right that’s the main reason for the shortfall. It’s the reason AZ gave for not providing some (more) from the U.K. site that’s caused the issue though.

Truth is you and I don't know what the contract states.

The company I work for IS AstraZeneca and as my previous comments on this forum allude to, I'm close to this project.

 

[BobKowalski]

I think the big one that people are missing is that Oxford only gave AZ permission to distribute the vaccine because they promised the UK 100million doses from it's UK sites as a priority.

Without that deal, there's no deal for the EU, US anywhere

Are you saying Oxford would have refused permission to distribute a vaccine during a global pandemic if the UK didn’t get priority?

 

[Chris in London]

It‘s a contract, they don’t actually work on a first come, first served basis.

Contract A: We agree to supply you with ten nuts by Jan 31st.

Contract B: We agree to supply Bob with twenty nuts by Jan 31st.

Come Jan 31st I want my twenty fucking nuts as per the contract. Not five nuts and wibble about having to give ten to someone else. Not my problem.

The next bit is me having a temper tantrum and flicking my poop at the walls because I haven’t got my nuts, which is pretty much the EU right now, and while momentarily satisfying it isn’t going to get me my nuts.

Don’t forget, this is all decided under Belgian law.

Fortunately we have a forum full of experts on precisely that subject.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

This is what divorce is all about.

 

[Ban-jani]

This is what divorce is all about.

Calling @worsleyweb

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

That’s good news, but they’ve handled this whole affair shambolically.

It's beyond bizarre. Someone must've gone rogue with this.

 

[meltonblue]

And the point you dismissed about yields? Its explained in the interview why the EU factory yields are poor compared to the UK factory yields. The EU's vaccine planning and rollout has been a disgrace, anyone defending their incompetence needs to give their head a good fucking wobble. Thank fuck we are out as we'd be looking at about 1/3 of our current number of vaccination's if that.

That it doesn’t matter, the contract specifically says that U.K. and Eu manufacturing sites are to be considered the same and will be the sole locations. That’s why the EU wanted to release the contract as it does contradict his point.

I’m not defending their rollout strategy, I’ve always said it’s shit and they’ve been even more horrendous today. What I don’t like is misinterpreting what’s led to the situation.

 

[Ban-jani]

It‘s a contract, they don’t actually work on a first come, first served basis.

Contract A: We agree to supply you with ten nuts by Jan 31st.

Contract B: We agree to supply Bob with twenty nuts by Jan 31st.

Come Jan 31st I want my twenty fucking nuts as per the contract. Not five nuts and wibble about having to give ten to someone else. Not my problem.

The next bit is me having a temper tantrum and flicking my poop at the walls because I haven’t got my nuts, which is pretty much the EU right now, and while momentarily satisfying it isn’t going to get me my nuts.

That would be smashing if that is what contract A and contract B said, but they weren’t the same date, we agreed to supply well earlier and it’s why we’re approaching 10 million and the EU have only just approved and as the chap above stated, Oxford gave it to AZ on the basis of supplying to the UK as preference.

 

[Chris in London]

This is what divorce is all about.

One’s a twat about the kids, the other’s a twat about money.

Time and time again