Political relations between UK-EU

[Ban-jani]

It's beyond bizarre. Someone must've gone rogue with this.

It’s either the current leadership or the pandemic panic.

It’s totally out of character for them to be so unprepared, lying and wrong.

They’ve never been anywhere near this bad, I’ve always viewed them as the adults in the building.

 

[red 2 hats]

It's beyond bizarre. Someone must've gone rogue with this.

Or the EU showing true colours

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

This is what divorce is all about.

The Women always get the vaccine usually. A bit unfair on the Men, who only get it Saturdays and one evening.

 

[BobKowalski]

Sounds like EU rolling back on Article 16, thankfully

From 26 mins ago, so my 10pm prediction is a winner...

‘Brussels to withdraw incendiary plan floated hours ago to use new vaccine export curbs to in effect create a hard border between the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland, per EU officials. "It was an error. We are changing it," said one EU official of the abortive plan.’ @FT

 

[BobKowalski]

That would be smashing if that is what contract A and contract B said, but they weren’t the same date, we agreed to supply well earlier and it’s why we’re approaching 10 million and the EU have only just approved and as the chap above stated, Oxford gave it to AZ on the basis of supplying to the UK as preference.

The date is irreverent, and the first contract is irrelevant to the second contract unless you specifically make the second conditional on the first.

They are two separate, stand alone contracts, it’s not a game of ‘dibs’.

 

[03 March 2002]

That it doesn’t matter, the contract specifically says that U.K. and Eu manufacturing sites are to be considered the same and will be the sole locations. That’s why the EU wanted to release the contract as it does contradict his point.

I’m not defending their rollout strategy, I’ve always said it’s shit and they’ve been even more horrendous today. What I don’t like is misinterpreting what’s led to the situation.

You haven't seen the contract and I'm willing to bet that UK made vaccine is NOT going into EU supply chain unless it's excess product which is entering the EU for full specification release testing. In which case it's being done as a favour for the EU. If you're apparently moving vaccine to there it's for that reason and that reason only. The MAA (market authorisation documents) state the manufacturing labs which to my knowledge contains NO UK sites for the EU territory.

Oh P.S. if they are importing UK made vaccine to do full specification release testing, it's approx. 54 days' work to complete.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

That it doesn’t matter, the contract specifically says that U.K. and Eu manufacturing sites are to be considered the same and will be the sole locations. That’s why the EU wanted to release the contract as it does contradict his point.

I’m not defending their rollout strategy, I’ve always said it’s shit and they’ve been even more horrendous today. What I don’t like is misinterpreting what’s led to the situation.

And what about the UK contract with AstraZeneca? Should AstraZeneca break that to ship doses to the EU, when the UK has been the hardest hit country in Europe?

 

[Nightmare Walking]

The date is irreverent, and the first contract is irrelevant to the second contract unless you specifically make the second conditional on the first.

They are two separate, stand alone contracts, it’s not a game of ‘dibs’.

Well they will have to honour the contract to the UK, regardless of their contract with the EU.

 

[BobKowalski]

Don’t forget, this is all decided under Belgian law.

Fortunately we have a forum full of experts on precisely that subject.

To be honest, I’m flying blind here, I’m just counting on the opposition being blind and deaf :)

 

[Metal Biker]

EU's new stance on the invoking of Article 16: