Political relations between UK-EU

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See the forum bullies are out in force again.

Still waiting for something of substance from some rather than insults and in jokes.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I had applied Hanlon's Razor principle to your posts mate, but I was wrong to.
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Perhaps I am right?

Financial Times are reporting the economy is set to perform well in the coming months despite the prediction of Covid cases going up.

Armageddon might just not be around the corner, despite issues with trade.
 
Octavian said:
Perhaps I am right?

Financial Times are reporting the economy is set to perform well in the coming months despite the prediction of Covid cases going up.

Armageddon might just not be around the corner, despite issues with trade.
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Armageddon is a popular Brexiteer theme, ie the absence of Armageddon means Brexit is a success.

You have had plenty of substance, you‘ve even acknowledged it, and the metric for Brexit success is boom times, sunlit uplands and a better deal with the EU than we enjoyed as members. That was promised, not an episode of Survival Island and making do.

We were promised £350m a week extra for the NHS, not a tax rise to plug a financial hole. We were promised cheaper clothes and food, not gaps on shelves or lowering sewage standards because of chemical shortages.

I want the benefits promised. I don’t want inconveniences, making do or to be told to ‘count yourself lucky it isn’t the zombie apocalypse’.

Understood?
 
BobKowalski said:
Armageddon is a popular Brexiteer theme, ie the absence of Armageddon means Brexit is a success.

You have had plenty of substance, you‘ve even acknowledged it, and the metric for Brexit success is boom times, sunlit uplands and a better deal with the EU than we enjoyed as members. That was promised, not an episode of Survival Island and making do.

We were promised £350m a week extra for the NHS, not a tax rise to plug a financial hole. We were promised cheaper clothes and food, not gaps on shelves or lowering sewage standards because of chemical shortages.

I want the benefits promised. I don’t want inconveniences, making do or to be told to ‘count yourself lucky it isn’t the zombie apocalypse’.

Understood?
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Yeah that was all bollocks from the leave campaign but I’m also not buying the whole “we’re absolutely fucked” line now either.

From what I’m reading, things are a bit tough and there’s work to do but it’s not as some are making out.
 
Octavian said:
From what I’m reading, things are a bit tough and there’s work to do but it’s not as some are making out.
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Octavian said:
Yeah that was all bollocks from the leave campaign but I’m also not buying the whole “we’re absolutely fucked” line now either.

From what I’m reading, things are a bit tough and there’s work to do but it’s not as some are making out.
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I will give you just one example of ‘things are a bit tough and there’s work to do but it’s not as some are making it out’. My wife had to go into the local A & E 3 night ago. Arrived at 10.30 and i had to go home and keep phoning up every hour to see if she was done to. 5.00am they told me she would be ready at 5.30am. I arrived at 5.15am and started talking to a nurse on the arrival station and he was apologising for the long wait as they had seen a large reduction of EU staff going home and not returning. This guy was from Romania and he was saying that some were not returning because they felt unwanted after Brexit. This is not unusual as we are seeing a lot of EU people not returnin, probably because they don’t meet the ‘criteria’ to stay.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
I will give you just one example of ‘things are a bit tough and there’s work to do but it’s not as some are making it out’. My wife had to go into the local A & E 3 night ago. Arrived at 10.30 and i had to go home and keep phoning up every hour to see if she was done to. 5.00am they told me she would be ready at 5.30am. I arrived at 5.15am and started talking to a nurse on the arrival station and he was apologising for the long wait as they had seen a large reduction of EU staff going home and not returning. This guy was from Romania and he was saying that some were not returning because they felt unwanted after Brexit. This is not unusual as we are seeing a lot of EU people not returnin, probably because they don’t meet the ‘criteria’ to stay.
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We've had shit waiting times long before Brexit. People will always find an excuse instead of sorting it out.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
I will give you just one example of ‘things are a bit tough and there’s work to do but it’s not as some are making it out’. My wife had to go into the local A & E 3 night ago. Arrived at 10.30 and i had to go home and keep phoning up every hour to see if she was done to. 5.00am they told me she would be ready at 5.30am. I arrived at 5.15am and started talking to a nurse on the arrival station and he was apologising for the long wait as they had seen a large reduction of EU staff going home and not returning. This guy was from Romania and he was saying that some were not returning because they felt unwanted after Brexit. This is not unusual as we are seeing a lot of EU people not returnin, probably because they don’t meet the ‘criteria’ to stay.
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All they had to be doing is live here by the end of 2020 to be able to stay. The new visa system stops new entries coming in to fill lower skilled and paid jobs, but doesn't mean anyone already here had to leave.
 
Octavian said:
Yeah that was all bollocks from the leave campaign but I’m also not buying the whole “we’re absolutely fucked” line now either.

From what I’m reading, things are a bit tough and there’s work to do but it’s not as some are making out.
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I’m not interested in things being ‘tough’ or that there is work to be done or that tax rises are necessary. Brexit was sold as ‘liberation’ from the EU, freeing up £350m a week for the NHS, a direct saving on EU membership that could be used to offset the pandemic cost, freedom from regulation that inhibited our economy, freedom from red tape, and cheaper prices in the shops.

That was sold to the country, just as we were sold a social care plan that wouldn’t put up taxes and a Brexit ‘oven ready’ deal.

I want all of this and I want evidence of where it is now, not weasel words and making do. And if we can’t have what was promised, then what was the fucking point of Brexit?
 
Even the Aussies make us bend the knee...

‘Sky News can reveal that ministers have agreed to drop binding commitments to the Paris climate change agreement from the UK-Australian post-Brexit trade deal.’
 
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