Political relations between UK-EU

Just read these posts, it’s absolutely laughable stuff.

All the trots are out crying about neoliberalism that doesn’t exist and isn’t going to.

The Tories are too scared of losing power to enforce unpopular policies, it’s the one benefit of them being spineless.
The British public are sleepwalking into an ethno-fascist state ruled by the Tories and the libertarians are the root of all evil...


... because we left a political trading bloc.
 
You’re right, they wouldn’t. I don’t think it is about hating and fearing the tories as such though, it’s more about just trying to understand the underlying motivations behind certain elements and individuals in the party that are now in power.
We have systems in place to ensure that such elements can never see the light of day. Parliament, the House of Lords, Royal Assent.

In this instance I think the Queen would have the support of the public to defy the Government of the day, if it ever even managed to pass such acts through the House of Commons.
 
We have systems in place to ensure that such elements can never see the light of day. Parliament, the House of Lords, Royal Assent.

In this instance I think the Queen would have the support of the public to defy the Government of the day, if it ever even managed to pass such acts through the House of Commons.

Which acts are you talking about there?

I agree that there’s enough checks and balances in place to hope they don’t get too far down the road. It’s not as if there hasn’t already been attempts to undermine a lot of those already though, which also questions again what some of the underlying motivations for some involved are.

Im not sure this is the right thread for it though as it will get conflated to people thinking it dismisses the valid motivations, which isn’t the point, nor is Brexit specifically.
 
Occasionally you read something and you think about it, you read it again to make sure you read it properly and then you think, fuck me, i have quite possibly been as naive as at any time in my life and i am quite possibly as wrong as I have ever been in my life about politics

This is fucking chilling. I know i am capable of extreme hyperbole at times and I am not a huge fan of Alastair Campbell, but I implore you all, read this.

It is about a concept called the Sovereign Individual.

the brexit revolutionaries have barely begun. britain needs to wake up fast | Alastair Campbell

Perhaps you see why some of us who have understood this from the start are so anti Brexit.

Brexit was never the end game, just a step on the way to the libertarian goal.

People take way too much for granted. Our very way of life is under threat. Our Government isn't working for us, it's working for the billionaires who helped put them in power.

I have raised this many times in the past and so it's good to see someone else take it seriously but you will be astonished at the complete lack of comprehension from those who respond.

Edit. I see the naysayers are out already. Look at what Trump has done in the US and tell me something similar can't happen here. You'd be wrong because it can and there is a lot of power being exerted to ensure it does.
 
Which acts are you talking about there?

I agree that there’s enough checks and balances in place to hope they don’t get too far down the road. It’s not as if there isn’t already been attempts to undermine a lot of those already though, which also questions again what some of the underlying motivations for some involved are.

Im not sure this is the right thread for it though as it will get conflated to people thinking it dismisses the valid motivations, which isn’t the point.
Theoretical acts required to give the Tories supreme powah like those being theorised.

It isn't possible for what is being claimed to ever transpire in the UK, being a member or not being a member of the EU would do nothing to prohibit it either, would it so why is it being touted as a potential result of brexit?

Its fucking nonsense.
 
Yes, he did a wonderful job with those dodgy dossiers justifying Blairs illegal wars. Cummings learnt a lot from him for sure.
A bit of low rent whataboutery doesn’t change a thing mate. He looks like a moral and intellectual collussus compared to the Vote Leave caricatures that you lot foisted upon us.
 
Perhaps you see why some of us who have understood this from the start are so anti Brexit.

Brexit was never the end game, just a step on the way to the libertarian goal.

People take way too much for granted. Our very way of life is under threat. Our Government isn't working for us, it's working for the billionaires who helped put them in power.

I have raised this many times in the past and so it's good to see someone else take it seriously but you will be astonished at the complete lack of comprehension from those who respond.

Edit. I see the naysayers are out already. Look at what Trump has done in the US and tell me something similar can't happen here. You'd be wrong because it can and there is a lot of power being exerted to ensure it does.
Our political systems are completely different. No, something similar cannot happen here because there is no single 'building' or institution people can 'storm' to seize control. The UK is not the US. A Prime Minister does not hold as much power as a President. Militias are illegal.
 
A bit of low rent whataboutery doesn’t change a thing mate. He looks like a moral and intellectual collussus compared to the Vote Leave caricatures that you lot foisted upon us.
If you want to ignore or downplay the central role he had in 2 illegal wars that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths because you look up to him and like him then its up to you, We shall just have to agree to disagree, the man is a low life and no certainly better than Cummings.
 
ha ha ha ha - Gove tweeting this out without a hint of irony - no mention that trade is down 68% which could have some impact on the lack of queues. Has echoes of Priti Patels proud boast she had got shop lifting down to almost zero forgetting to mention lockdown had shut nearly all shops for the previous month.

 

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