Political relations between UK-EU

Ancient Citizen said:
No, it doesn't depend on how you phrase it, and a poll held by a left wing,
little watched channel is irrelevant. You're presenting what you want and believe as fact, it's far from it, the govt. has a big majority, and one of its
policies is the points based system. All this has been said and done for ages mate, we're getting what Priti says we're getting, the SM and CU are now
just a construct of an organisation in Brussels, all in all, these arguments are dead.
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This last day has emphasised why I was hoping that the thread might move on from the past and look to the future.

@Saddleworth2 these last days has also demonstrated why I do believe that you were possibly somewhat optimistic on where people on here are on the 'change journey'.

Perhaps you can deploy some of your experience to help then to progress up the curve?
 
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mcfc1632 said:
This last day has emphasised why I was hoping that the thread might move on from the past and look to the future.

@Saddleworth2 these last days has also demonstrated why I do believe that you were possibly somewhat optimistic on where people on here are on the 'change journey'.

Perhaps you can deploy some of your experience to help then to progress up the curve?
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No need. That conversation was about future movement of people processes between UK and EU.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
No need. That conversation was about future movement of people processes between UK and EU.
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You don't get it. "Looking forward" means that rights we enjoyed as EU citizens must now go in the memory hole.
 
hilts said:
Just vote for a party that wants to rejoin next election mate:-)
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That won’t happen, but would bet most parties, and most votes will go to parties offering, closer alignment to the single market, and N.Ireland. Enough to beat the tories, remains to be seen.
 
blueparrot said:
That won’t happen, but would bet most parties, and most votes will go to parties offering, closer alignment to the single market, and N.Ireland. Enough to beat the tories, remains to be seen.
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If there isn’t a significant enough economic hit, felt in the majority of people’s back pockets, like there isn’t looking likely to be, this would be absolute suicide for Starmer to go down this route.

If he focuses on maintaining our distance with the EU, keeps at least very similar immigration controls as the Tories have put into place, but campaigns for economic improvements for many, whilst ignoring the social justice stuff, he’ll walk it.

His problem is his MPs.
 
Vic said:
You don't get it. "Looking forward" means that rights we enjoyed as EU citizens must now go in the memory hole.
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I do get it mate. But thats true isn't it. It is a memory. Maybe its you that doesn't get it?
For right or wrong, we lost the argument.
Until a party outside Scotland decides to back rejoin, memories are all we have. I've accepted that and am now looking at what improvements can be made to the current deal.
 
blueparrot said:
That won’t happen, but would bet most parties, and most votes will go to parties offering, closer alignment to the single market, and N.Ireland. Enough to beat the tories, remains to be seen.
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I know it won’t happen:-) Lib Dem’s will have rejoin in there no doubt, Tories won’t for sure. labour will be in a pickle. I just laugh when I see people mentioning fptp as a negative even when they have spent their lives voting Labour.
 
hilts said:
I know it won’t happen:-) Lib Dem’s will have rejoin in there no doubt, Tories won’t for sure. labour will be in a pickle. I just laugh when I see people mentioning fptp as a negative even when they have spent their lives voting Labour.
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4 years is a long time, I pretty sure Labour policy will be closer to being closer to S.M than anything else, Liberal not sure, but if they have any sense rejoining will be put on the back burner and they'd see single market as a first step. I'm sure by then though the election will be foought on other issues and would be very surprised to see the tories winning a majority.
The big unknown though is the SNP. They will be the 3 rd party, and would be the obvious partners for Labour to form a government. We know they will have a rejoin policy, question is would they support Labour in government, and in joining N.Ireland with the single market deal, or would they insist on only voting to rejoin.
 
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