I presume you want people to be nice to you and to try and understand you rather than highlight your idiotic choice. If people weren't so mean to you in 2016 you might have voted Remain?5 years on and still lessons have not been learned.
And it's the same ignorant voices, too.
So has your rationality :)I presume you want people to be nice to you and to try and understand you rather than highlight your idiotic choice. If people weren't so mean to you in 2016 you might have voted Remain?
That ships sailed. We will all reap what you lot have sowed.
“no deal is better than a bad deal*
*when the bad deal is worse than no deal”
Talk about stating the obvious. It was a nonsense statement really I can only imagine uttered in public to show how tough each side was being with the other.
Nail on head of the “solutions” it all seemed far enough away to talk fancifully but once you start getting into the detail they see solutions are years away from being realised.
It’s now about prioritising the problems/ barriers. The trouble is while we work through all this real people and livelihoods are suffering. So full government support for these industries is an absolute must during this time.
No shortage of people on here that think it worked and think we should be using the same negotiation strategy to sort out the NI border issues and import/export problems.Completely agree with the last Para.
It was nonsense to say NDIBTABD and there is no doubt that in part it was used by the government as a negotiation ploy, but there were significant numbers who commented who actually believed it. Like they believed the Art 24 nonsense and the technological solution that depended on non-existent technology.
As to the government, the strategy depended on making the EU think we were actually batshit crazy enough to genuinely believe that. As a negotiation strategy it certainly had the virtue of being novel, but even with this limited hindsight I don’t think you can describe it as an unqualified success.
more complete tosh and along the same lines as usual. Fucking 'class war'..It certainly demonstrates the hypocrisy of the white,affluent, privileged Remain crowd. No concern whatsoever for the fishing industry during the campaign. Indeed such was the contempt these working class lads and lasses were held in by Captain Geldof and his ilk, Cap’n Bob and his fellow chaps saw fit to hire a motor craft at considerable expense for the purpose of sailing it down the nations busiest river simply to use this as a way to call these hard working, concerned fellow citizens Wankers and tell them to Fuck Off on national television.
That was the priority. That was the best use of his time and his money - much of it earned from the tragedy of black families dying of starvation - He didn’t use that surplus cash to donate to a soup kitchen, he didn’t use it to help out a local charity. No, he used his surplus cash to tell working class people “you’re wankers” and “fuck off” Simply because they disagreed with his view of the world.
That was also the moment when millions of other working class people realised, in full HD, exactly what the suburban set actually thought of them.
That was the moment that hit home.
That was the moment the referendum was won for Leave.
That was the moment our country was saved.
You can take your fake concern for people you wouldn’t ordinarily piss on if they were on fire. They know you don’t mean it. They know you really think they are wankers and are beneath you. They have memories. So do I. And on June 23 2016 I used that memory in the voting booth.
Working class solidarity won. Affluent privileged sneering lost.
Thank you. You and yours made the case for Leave far better than the leave campaign could ever have dreamed of doing themselves.
Completely agree with the last Para.
It was nonsense to say NDIBTABD and there is no doubt that in part it was used by the government as a negotiation ploy, but there were significant numbers who commented who actually believed it. Like they believed the Art 24 nonsense and the technological solution that depended on non-existent technology.
As to the government, the strategy depended on making the EU think we were actually batshit crazy enough to genuinely believe that. As a negotiation strategy it certainly had the virtue of being novel, but even with this limited hindsight I don’t think you can describe it as an unqualified success.
more complete tosh and along the same lines as usual. Fucking 'class war'..
Were you with Farage on the boat?I wouldn't expect you to understand mate.
You think me and mine are wankers to be insulted on national television.
But thanks for the victory.
And this post simply confirms that the UK is far better being out of an organisation that creates this kind of conflict. When deals are struck and hands are shaken, and the other side starts to see that the results of their stultifying bureaucracy are massively detrimental to themselves, and shown in stark detail to be, to by the nimble operator over the water, to then react
in the manner they have, that's no basis for harmony.
And yes, we're aware there 'Will be more to come,' and that means consequences.