Political relations between UK-EU

[bluethrunthru]

So has your rationality :)

If that's the case, don't come to us looking for sympathy sweetie. Any ramblings from you in the future will just be perceived as a tantrum.

perhaps you would like to tell these Brexit voters to just stop having a tantrum....

Brexit trade deal leaves Welsh fishermen 'devastated'

New rules could create a "perfect storm" for the £39m sector, says Welsh Fishermen's Association.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[BobKowalski]

Talking of tantrums...Ms Foster is having one.

‘Northern Ireland needs freed from the Protocol.
We must have unfettered trade between GB & NI.
It’s time for the Government to step up & protect this part of the United Kingdom with permanent solutions, not sticking plasters.
EU must recognise the absence of unionist support.’ @DUP

Not happening, you wanted Brexit, you got it. Enjoy.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Talking of tantrums...Ms Foster is having one.

‘Northern Ireland needs freed from the Protocol.
We must have unfettered trade between GB & NI.
It’s time for the Government to step up & protect this part of the United Kingdom with permanent solutions, not sticking plasters.
EU must recognise the absence of unionist support.’ @DUP

Not happening, you wanted Brexit, you got it. Enjoy.

 

[meltonblue]

That last part is really important. I was going to respond similarly to @west didsblue

What seems clear to me (hindsight perhaps) is we needed a 6 month or so “grace period” to run the deal “live” and uncover the practical problems that aren’t always apparent in the meeting rooms where the deal is thrashed out. This would allow business on both sides of the channel to run as normal rather than to halt trading. COVID would have provided a great reason for such an idea if it was deemed a politically complex “sell”. Our learned experiences will certainly help any other country looking to exit the EU manage better.

Did irritate me that the pandemic gave them a perfect get out of jail to extend the timeframe for implementation and not lose face and they didn’t take it. Could have had the deal provisionally agreed then tested over a period of time and also allowed them not to add change on top of already an unprecedented period of change so that they can’t properly assess the impacts.

The question there is it was so clearly the rational thing to do, why didn’t they do it....

Sometimes, I do think it’s a shame that it’s a topic that has so much emotional investment and real life impacts attached to it. It would be a fascinating case study if it could all be properly objectively assessed without all the baggage.

 

[stonerblue]

it seems destroying your own country is now being framed as class war and a test of patriotism. Who knew? Most just fancied retiring to a small apartment they have on the Algarve....

Try as i might i really can't get the 'class' angle that @Kazzydeyna brings up every month or so.
Starting with the notion that Bob Geldof is 'posh' and part of an elite. Maybe it's because he was on a boat or had a stripey blazer on? Also worht noting that Geldofs 'flotilla' was there to give 'man of the peoples that drinks pints' Farages 'flotilla' some shit.
I also wonder where KD's fight for social justice fits in with our new immigration bill? You know the one that says wealthy, educated immigrants are welcome but the poor, homeless, un-educated ones can fuck right off.
Voting for a brexit run by Johnson and championed by reese fucking mogg is hardly standing shoulder to shoulder with the working classes is it?

 

[west didsblue]

Try as i might i really can't get the 'class' angle that @Kazzydeyna brings up every month or so.
Starting with the notion that Bob Geldof is 'posh' and part of an elite. Maybe it's because he was on a boat or had a stripey blazer on? Also worht noting that Geldofs 'flotilla' was there to give 'man of the peoples that drinks pints' Farages 'flotilla' some shit.
I also wonder where KD's fight for social justice fits in with our new immigration bill? You know the one that says wealthy, educated immigrants are welcome but the poor, homeless, un-educated ones can fuck right off.
Voting for a brexit run by Johnson and championed by reese fucking mogg is hardly standing shoulder to shoulder with the working classes is it?

Maybe he's a big fan of Nanny's homemade marmalade.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

 

[Ban-jani]

Try as i might i really can't get the 'class' angle that @Kazzydeyna brings up every month or so.
Starting with the notion that Bob Geldof is 'posh' and part of an elite. Maybe it's because he was on a boat or had a stripey blazer on? Also worht noting that Geldofs 'flotilla' was there to give 'man of the peoples that drinks pints' Farages 'flotilla' some shit.
I also wonder where KD's fight for social justice fits in with our new immigration bill? You know the one that says wealthy, educated immigrants are welcome but the poor, homeless, un-educated ones can fuck right off.
Voting for a brexit run by Johnson and championed by reese fucking mogg is hardly standing shoulder to shoulder with the working classes is it?

It is considering more of the working class voted Tory than Labour in 2019.

 

[BobKowalski]

Back to NI and a point I was making a while back, about NI being in a unique position to capitalise on being between two distinct markets, the EU and GB market.

 

[stonerblue]

It is considering more of the working class voted Tory than Labour in 2019.

brexit.