Political relations between UK-EU

[mcfc1632]

I don’t think either of those things will happen.

I don’t think there’s been significant enough disruption, I know it’s very early but it’s not being reported as going to happen, to affect the vast majority on a day to day basis.

Things will just carry on for most people and whilst it won’t be a big success, it’s not going to make a dent to a lot of people.

I have not made particular effort to check - but I have not heard anything on the news about the apocalypse having been spotted on the horizon - or specifically massive queues throughout Kent

This is why I was pointing out earlier that Starmer will be careful to understand the impacts before taking a position.

If the apocalypse remains stubborn and there is not a daily outcry of people being able to point to the massive disruptions and personal plights - then I can not see Starmer making any noises about closer alignment with the EU as part of his manifestos.

Should the apocalypse continue to hang back, at least we will be able to look forward to the discussion moving on and people looking to the future and - who knows - we may find people coming onto the thread to accept that a) they had perhaps overstated the dramas and b) commit to looking to the (post Brexit) future

 

[GH64]

If the bit about clairvoyants was meant to suggest it wasn't in anyone's minds as a Brexit issue (it wasn't clair) then Farage was banging on in 2015 about imagined immigrant no-go areas in European cities.

No, just saying that saying something said by Trump / Farage in 2017 which is what the article referenced didn't influence the 2016 vote.
In 2015 Farage was asked about no go areas for non Muslims in France (by good old Fox News) after the Charlie Hebdo shootings, he then extended that to "major European cities" and then proceeded to have a good rant about the UK too. He complained about immigrants to the UK from Pakistan in the same breath, so not really relevant to FOM or Brexit, just generally pretty anti Muslim.

 

[GH64]

You think Putin’s left wing??

Inverted wingers? Can switch whenever you want these days .

 

[squirtyflower]

You think Putin’s left wing??

Not really, but I was being kind to Bob, who still hasn’t answered

 

[squirtyflower]

Grasp of foreign affairs not a strong point with Brexiteers.

Grasp of truth not a strong point of the London middle class elite?

 

[BobKowalski]

Grasp of truth not a strong point of the London middle class elite?

Brexit Bingo. London, check. Middle class, check. Elite, check.

Priceless.

 

[Ban-jani]

With respect you said, Customs Union, not Single Market, and ‘temporary’ when it’s permanent unless the people of NI say otherwise.

That the EU and Dublin will want to make this arrangement for NI work, means they will try to make the whole deal work, which is in itself good news.

You knew what I meant by CU’s.

And I have said several times on this thread the decision to leave will be ratified by the NI parliament.

 

[mcfc1632]

I knew full well remain voters would be stating how shit it was and leave voters saying how good it is, when in reality it’s a bit “meh”.

Meh = fine by me - as good as could possibly be expected immediately after leaving

It will be in the future that the benefits of not being in the EU will become obvious

 

[BobKowalski]

Bloomberg is a ray of fucking sunshine today...

’Aquis Exchange Plc, London’s second-biggest venue for trading European shares, has seen almost all of this business shift into the European Union on the first trading day since Brexit.

Chief Executive Officer Alasdair Haynes told Bloomberg TV on Monday that 99.6% of its European share trading moved to its parallel venue in Paris.

“Europe has clearly won the battle for its own share trading,” he said. The shift “is a spectacular own goal as Britain is now losing its very strong position in trading of European equities in London,” he said.‘

 

[Vic]

That external tariff reduction going well...

‘Supply Lines: Britain's first post-Brexit bananas arrive from Ghana ... with a $24,000 tariff surcharge attached’ @Bloomberg

I do believe the government might have made it harder to find our new global tariffs...

So I can't check, but is this because Ghana was one of the developing countries that could export to the EU with zero tariffs and we haven't rolled that over?