Political relations between UK-EU

[hilts]

Definitely.... As discussed with Eamo before...there won't ever be a pure United Ireland....but a unified island with significant unionist input...although, they won't actually be unionists anymore.

It's this line of thinking that will see the SDLP gain new voters and the "shared island" thing

Ever is a long time

 

[joe123]

I'd honestly say the main reason as a Brit I want to keep NI is it is a symbol of the UK being on the island of Ireland and a permanent reminder to those south of the border of our presence, especially after they felt the need to blow up the Arndale.

What NI actually brings to the UK I don't know, it comes across as "another place" as it rarely seems to make any effort to really sell itself and promote its plus points, whereas the Scots never bloody shut up.

Congratulations on winning the most cuntish post of the week award.

 

[meltonblue]

They haven’t been sold out. As a Mancunian i may or may not want to be in a union but it’s none of my business whether a Scotsman does or an Irishman does. I don’t live there so cannot make that decision or give an opinion on their behalf.

Unless I’m wrong NI is still part of the Union. They are specific things that apply to NI because of a complicated history that isn’t worth going over. But nobody decided to vote the way they did because they are unmoved by the people of Northern Ireland. Just like the Irish didn’t vote taking into account English folk. It works both ways. You ask everyone the same question and see what the result is.

So much hassle is caused by people labelling themselves and being bothered about which govt shafts them. Tub thumping nationalists or unionists obsessed with lines on maps need to grow up. That applies to everywhere in the world.

If you have self determination in a democracy then use it and decide what is best for you and your countrymen going forward.

If we take the 4 countries of the U.K. and let’s throw in Southern Ireland as well for giggles there is lots of permutations there. Total independence a Union of all those countries, some of those countries, Eu membership. It’s 2020 grow up, make your mind up and get on with it.

That’s irrelevant to the point people are making though. The reason May could never sign up to the deal Johnson did was that she wasn’t willing to put any form of border between ourselves and NI, I’d argue rightly so as leader of the conservative and unionist party. No one has voted on that, our government has negotiated a deal that has included it.

 

[hilts]

That’s irrelevant to the point people are making though. The reason May could never sign up to the deal Johnson did was that she wasn’t willing to put any form of border between ourselves and NI, I’d argue rightly so as leader of the conservative and unionist party. No one has voted on that, our government has negotiated a deal that has included it.

Oh no not a border, I think everyone is willing to hear your obvious solution.

 

[blueparrot]

Oh no not a border, I think everyone is willing to hear your obvious solution.

Obvious one, Great Britain and Northern Ireland could have left, or could one day go back to having the same deal. Leave as one UK was the strap line if I remember. Of course Boris never had the courage to take on the ERG and deliver that particular promise.

 

[hilts]

Obvious one, Great Britain and Northern Ireland could have left, or could one day go back to having the same deal. Leave as one UK was the strap line if I remember. Of course Boris never had the courage to take on the ERG and deliver that particular promise.

GB and Ireland could have just left?

 

[meltonblue]

Oh no not a border, I think everyone is willing to hear your obvious solution.

Sign the entire union up to the same deal, clearly, regardless of if it means it has some elements of it that some don’t want. Otherwise it isn’t a union.

I’m assuming from that comment though that you aren’t one of those that do even feign interest in NI or the union though, which is fair enough, everyone’s entitled to an opinion on it.

 

[hilts]

Sign the entire union up to the same deal, clearly, regardless of if it means it has some elements of it that some don’t want. Otherwise it isn’t a union.

I’m assuming from that comment though that you aren’t one of those that do even feign interest in NI or the union though, which is fair enough, everyone’s entitled to an opinion on it.

Your not saying anything fella, what deal are you talking about here?

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

GB and Ireland could have just left?

Have to say Hilts, I’m trying my best to follow where you’re going with this in your responses to others, but frankly your all over the place and whatever about an understanding of NI or not, you seem to show no understanding of Ireland the Republic.

Honestly don’t know what you are on about now.

 

[meltonblue]

Your not saying anything fella, what deal are you talking about here?

Ok, struggling a bit with that! What are you expecting me to reply with, a specific deal...?