Political relations between UK-EU

BobKowalski said:
Some polling in NI from Ashcroft’s mob. Brexit support down from the actual vote to around a third. Some bitter comments on the border and the lack of mention from Unionist politicians that it would be an issue.

In a real sense, Brexit reignited the identity debate in NI and all the problems associated with that. Basically, no one really thought Brexit through. More comforting to exist in make-believe land. Come to think of it, the UK currently is a land of make-believe and unicorns.

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To be fair, it was made quite clear before the vote that NI would be a huge problem but, of course, nobody listened or more to the point cared and most people, here on the ‘mainland’, still don’t care.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
To be fair, it was made quite clear before the vote that NI would be a huge problem but, of course, nobody listened or more to the point cared and most people, here on the ‘mainland’, still don’t care.
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In their simple-minded pursuit of brexit, they neither cared nor understood the NI protocol, and its effects on the whole process of brexit and on future trade deals with the US particularly.
I started this post thinking that it applied to the voters, but it actually reflects how this shambles of a government sees it too.
 
Just watched a documentary which suggested that the reason between the UK and the EU on Brexit actually IS WW2 would you believe it? We came out of it wounded and impoverished whereas Germany not feeling the need to develop 11 fighter planes and 16 battle tanks at once - indeed not being allowed to got on with producing quality jobs. homes and cars.

Meanwhile we in Britain got on with being British - rationed food until the mid-50's kept producing draughty slums and traditional ( not innovative } cars.

We got ourselves in such a mess we had to go to the IMF for a loan and had to join the prospering EEC on the understanding they were always going to integrate further to rationalise spending and promote peace and harmony.

Throughout our membership period we were afforded exceptionalism by means of opt out of things we didn't feel comfortable with like Schengen - although that was not applied to us so Brits could go live and work throughout the EU with no limits.

Bad actors then came to the fore - you can all name them - promising the earth if we left - mostly because they don't like forriners. So when you can't eat at your favourite cafe next Tuesday because they can't get staff for that shift of the local hand car wash shuts down due to no staff or you can't get a hair etc etc etc - don't blame Blair blame the brexit mod we are where we are because of their fucking weird xenophobia
 
As expected. And given the negotiations on the NI protocol will be eternal, the Republic will continue to enjoy unfettered access to the GB market. Next question is, will the UK extend this ‘grace period’ to the rest of the EU?

‘Goods moving from Ireland to Great Britain will be exempted from the new border controls on EU-GB goods which take effect on 1 January. The UK govt says this ‘pragmatic act of goodwill can help to maintain space for continued negotiations on the Protocol’
 
BobKowalski said:
Some polling in NI from Ashcroft’s mob. Brexit support down from the actual vote to around a third. Some bitter comments on the border and the lack of mention from Unionist politicians that it would be an issue.

In a real sense, Brexit reignited the identity debate in NI and all the problems associated with that. Basically, no one really thought Brexit through. More comforting to exist in make-believe land. Come to think of it, the UK currently is a land of make-believe and unicorns.

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Thats a great read...though to be honest, its so frustrating to see so many people talk in terms of Catholic and Protestant when discussing "them and us".....when im sure that the vast majority of them do not practise their religion
 
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