Political relations between UK-EU

flyer said:
As for the shit her government is dropping, all I can see is more and more steps towards the success of leaving the frankly disgusting union and great steps towards a world power of the UK in years to come. Nobody said it would be easy, but deals are coming through slowly but surely and I'm very happy that my lads life and his family life will be better overall because we Leavers won the vote.

Poland have now seen the light and want to get out and what have the EU done about it. Well you might have expected them to enter into negotiations with them and show them how good is to be part of this un-elected piece of shit. No. they've told Poland that if they don't stay within this un-elected shit, the they (the EU) will withhold Billions of Euros dur to Poland for their cheek. Sounds familiar?
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Copied this from the Unwell Queen thread in Off Topic so I wouldn't derail that thread.

In response to the above, that's possibly the biggest load of unadulterated shite I've read on here in a while. The only deals that are coming through are slightly less advantageous copy and paste deals from when we were in the EU along with unsigned deals with NZ and Australia that sell our farming industry down the river and give us nothing in return.

As for Poland, you're also talking shit. Although support for leaving the EU is at an all time high there, that all time high consists of less than 20% of the population with well over 60% strongly in favour of being in the EU, so it's going nowhere soon.

Not sure where you get the fact about the EU being an "unelected piece of shit". All EU laws need to get past the EU Council (consisting of elected leaders of each country) and the EU Parliament (consisting of directly elected MEPs). It's more democratic than this country with the House of Lords consisting of appointees and inherited peers.

Do you really think we will be a world power in years to come as a separate entity from the three main centres of power in the world? We used to have huge influence as a member of one of those centres of power. Now we have the indignity of relatively small countries on the other side of the world taking the piss out of us because of our desperation to sign trade deals so our government can boast about them to mugs like you without mentioning that all the deals do is help the other countries whilst doing fuck all beneficial for us and harming our own domestic production.
 
west didsblue said:
Do you really think we will be a world power in years to come as a separate entity from the three main centres of power in the world? We used to have huge influence as a member of one of those centres of power. Now we have the indignity of relatively small countries on the other side of the world taking the piss out of us because of our desperation to sign trade deals so our government can boast about them to mugs like you without mentioning that all the deals do is help the other countries whilst doing fuck all beneficial for us and harming our own domestic production.
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It's this lack of patriotism that really is holding the U.K. back; it's enough to make an educated pig farmer squeal...
 
west didsblue said:
Copied this from the Unwell Queen thread in Off Topic so I wouldn't derail that thread.

In response to the above, that's possibly the biggest load of unadulterated shite I've read on here in a while. The only deals that are coming through are slightly less advantageous copy and paste deals from when we were in the EU along with unsigned deals with NZ and Australia that sell our farming industry down the river and give us nothing in return.

As for Poland, you're also talking shit. Although support for leaving the EU is at an all time high there, that all time high consists of less than 20% of the population with well over 60% strongly in favour of being in the EU, so it's going nowhere soon.

Not sure where you get the fact about the EU being an "unelected piece of shit". All EU laws need to get past the EU Council (consisting of elected leaders of each country) and the EU Parliament (consisting of directly elected MEPs). It's more democratic than this country with the House of Lords consisting of appointees and inherited peers.

Do you really think we will be a world power in years to come as a separate entity from the three main centres of power in the world? We used to have huge influence as a member of one of those centres of power. Now we have the indignity of relatively small countries on the other side of the world taking the piss out of us because of our desperation to sign trade deals so our government can boast about them to mugs like you without mentioning that all the deals do is help the other countries whilst doing fuck all beneficial for us and harming our own domestic production.
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51% of us voted to leave because we think this is the better option for this country. You obviously don't believe in this, fair enough it's opinions and choices. We are each allowed our own.

As for not being part of the 'Big Three' I don't think they will wield the same power as they do now, so I don't honestly see this as being such a big thing in years to come. Maybe Yes in the short term but I think their overall effect on us will change as I think the whole of the EU will in the next decade. And whatever shape or form it takes, I think they will still want us as mates at whatever level.

A I said originally, no-one surely believed that a change of this size would be easy and yes these trade agreements may only be small steps, but all part of the beginning phase
 
flyer said:
51% of us voted to leave because we think this is the better option for this country. You obviously don't believe in this, fair enough it's opinions and choices. We are each allowed our own.

As for not being part of the 'Big Three' I don't think they will wield the same power as they do now, so I don't honestly see this as being such a big thing in years to come. Maybe Yes in the short term but I think their overall effect on us will change as I think the whole of the EU will in the next decade. And whatever shape or form it takes, I think they will still want us as mates at whatever level.

A I said originally, no-one surely believed that a change of this size would be easy and yes these trade agreements may only be small steps, but all part of the beginning phase
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51% voted to leave . 51 % didn’t vote for this completely shit deal that leaves the UK worse off, that leaves care homes and care providers short staffed so leaves hospitals full with blocked beds, the deal that leaves shelves empty, a deal that puts a border inside the UK. We could easily have left and had a deal that didn’t damage the country too much. We didn’t we left and signed a deal that is hugely damaging to the UK, and will continue to be so.
 
flyer said:
51% of us voted to leave because we think this is the better option for this country. You obviously don't believe in this, fair enough it's opinions and choices. We are each allowed our own.

As for not being part of the 'Big Three' I don't think they will wield the same power as they do now, so I don't honestly see this as being such a big thing in years to come. Maybe Yes in the short term but I think their overall effect on us will change as I think the whole of the EU will in the next decade. And whatever shape or form it takes, I think they will still want us as mates at whatever level.

A I said originally, no-one surely believed that a change of this size would be easy and yes these trade agreements may only be small steps, but all part of the beginning phase
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Spoken like somebody who still believes the U.K. are some kind of world powerhouse and not a laughing stock..
 
bluethrunthru said:
Johnson waffles on with Rugby metaphors then Jacinda takes the piss by pointing out this is still an agreement in principle and if he wants to go down the rugby avenue that the All Blacks always win - and they present this to mindless followers as a win FFS

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Could he not come up with any benefits for Britain? Just things we import from NZ? I wish she'd actually asked him what he thought of the "indigenous chapter"!
 
flyer said:
51% of us voted to leave because we think this is the better option for this country. You obviously don't believe in this, fair enough it's opinions and choices. We are each allowed our own.

As for not being part of the 'Big Three' I don't think they will wield the same power as they do now, so I don't honestly see this as being such a big thing in years to come. Maybe Yes in the short term but I think their overall effect on us will change as I think the whole of the EU will in the next decade. And whatever shape or form it takes, I think they will still want us as mates at whatever level.

A I said originally, no-one surely believed that a change of this size would be easy and yes these trade agreements may only be small steps, but all part of the beginning phase
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Yep 51% of the voting electorate in 2016 voted to leave and we left on 31 Jan 2020. How many of them do you think are happy with the subsequent implementation of the WA and the trade deal? I don’t remember being asked if we wanted importing and exporting to be much more difficult and expensive, whether we wanted to give up our freedom of movement around 27 countries, whether we wanted to split the U.K. into two separate jurisdictions and whether we wanted to spend billions replicating functions that were previously shared with 27 other countries.
We could have left the EU and done our best to minimise the damage but we decided to go all out for 100% separation (apart from NI of course) with its consequent costs and damage to the economy. Instead we’re opening up our market to random countries on the other side of the world with next to no benefit to us.
 
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