We need a midfielder in the mould of De Jong. A tenacious, speedy, nasty bastard to be put it bluntly. Win the ball back, be in the right place at the right time and be almost feared on the pitch. All of our players are too nice. De Jong or even Komps or Fernandinho would have left one on Pepe tonight which he would have deserved.
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cleavers
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I wasn't really thinking of his pass, more the defending after it, not a single defender did anything of note, I sat there thinking "do something, anyone", they didn't, wasn't particularly impressed by Edersons effort either.It was a shit pass, but we rarely score from the same situation.
The Porto player simply took the opportunity given him, defending like that belongs to Sunday parks, all of the players, not singling any out, all of them, and a couple of midfielders who were trotting back.
Shit.
cleavers
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There was strong competition all round.I thought Mahrez was the worst player on the pitch by some distance.
No to Rice & Phillips from me.
Not a fan of Gundogan but I agree he wasn't the main offender tonight.
Rodri was often stood directly with a player between him & the ball, leaving no out ball, exactly how Pep coaches players not to position themselves. When he did appear, there was often no point in passing to him as he just played it where it came from.
I'd rather have a player there who is seriously good at winning the ball stopping attacks or creating & shit at the other, than one who is average at both.
I'm not sure who scouted him and thought he would be a good fit for our system, it's bizarre.
Neville Kneville
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Yeah but the player left Dias' area & moved into Garcias, who positioned himself to hide out of the way behind Rodri, who was fucking shite, then Cancelo, who was fucking unforgiveably shite & finally just watched as the bloke scored.I wasn't really thinking of his pass, more the defending after it, not a single defender did anything of note, I sat there thinking "do something, anyone", they didn't, wasn't particularly impressed by Edersons effort either.
The Porto player simply took the opportunity given him, defending like that belongs to Sunday parks, all of the players, not singling any out, all of them, and a couple of midfielders who were trotting back.
Shit.
If he'd gone toward Dias it would have been his problem but he headed for the team turds instead.
Neville Kneville
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I'm not sure who scouted him and thought he would be a good fit for our system, it's bizarre.
Tbh I thought he would be great, but you have to take into account who he is playing for I suppose.
Hargreaves did a fair summary of him tonight, which wasn't flattering.
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I've not been a fan of Rice. But I think that's more about how he plays the game than his ability. He's being coached in that typically English approach to being a defensive mid. Where you stand as still as possible just in front of back four and only get involved in the game when you really have to.No to Rice & Phillips from me.
Not a fan of Gundogan but I agree he wasn't the main offender tonight.
Rodri was often stood directly with a player between him & the ball, leaving no out ball, exactly how Pep coaches players not to position themselves. When he did appear, there was often no point in passing to him as he just played it where it came from.
I'd rather have a player there who is seriously good at winning the ball stopping attacks or creating & shit at the other, than one who is average at both.
In the recent England match when Maguire got sent off I thought Rice changed completely. He was on the front foot making interceptions and driving the team forward. Maybe there is a player in there?
Rodris attempted tackle/jump out the way/do fuck all was only bettered by Cancelos feeble attempt to again, do fuck all as the player beat him and slammed it in. Absolute garbage and not Dias fault.Yeah but the player left Dias' area & moved into Garcias, who positioned himself to hide out of the way behind Rodri, who was fucking shite, then Cancelo, who was fucking unforgiveably shite & finally just watched as the bloke scored.
If he'd gone toward Dias it would have been his problem but he headed for the team turds instead.
Neville Kneville
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I've not been a fan of Rice. But I think that's more about how he plays the game than his ability. He's being coached in that typically English approach to being a defensive mid. Where you stand as still as possible just in front of back four and only get involved in the game when you really have to.
In the recent England match when Maguire got sent off I thought Rice changed completely. He was on the front foot making interceptions and driving the team forward. Maybe there is a player in there?
I don't think he's shit, just too Rodrish to gamble on.
Imagine ending up with 2 twins plus Gundogan, to keep happy over a season ?