Post Match Thread: Election 2017

[blueinsa]

NHS fucked
poor are poorer
middle class are poorer
national defence compromised from lack of funds
social care fucked
national debt at the highest level since the 1960's
higher education no longer accessible by the poor

didnt need any data though - just obvious

Agree completely mate.

 

[pirate]

Thanks for the definition of compromise....I never knew.

sorry that came across as much more patronising than i meant it too

 

[cleavers]

sorry that came across as much more patronising than i meant it too

Correct, so I won't be bothering again.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

NHS fucked
poor are poorer
middle class are poorer
national defence compromised from lack of funds
social care fucked
national debt at the highest level since the 1960's
higher education no longer accessible by the poor

didnt need any data though - just obvious

why isn't higher education accessible by the poor? Unless you think having to pay it back if you're earning a nice salary and by paying it back, paying back a pittance thus having plenty of money to save/spend as you wish is somehow inaccessible?

Just another selfish soul who expects everyone else to pay for what they want in life, because god forbid they have to actually earn/invest/spend their own money.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

why isn't higher education accessible by the poor? Unless you think having to pay it back if you're earning a nice salary and by paying it back, paying back a pittance thus having plenty of money to save/spend as you wish is somehow inaccessible?

Just another selfish soul who expects everyone else to pay for what they want in life, because god forbid they have to actually earn/invest/spend their own money.

Agree completely mate

 

[BobKowalski]

why isn't higher education accessible by the poor? Unless you think having to pay it back if you're earning a nice salary and by paying it back, paying back a pittance thus having plenty of money to save/spend as you wish is somehow inaccessible?

Just another selfish soul who expects everyone else to pay for what they want in life, because god forbid they have to actually earn/invest/spend their own money.

Think of higher education as an investment. Just as you can get grants for investment in business. Or tax breaks for setting up companies in certain areas of the country to boost the local economy. I mean God forbid these companies should invest/spend their own money.

 

[worsleyweb]

Agree completely mate.[/QUOTE]

You want your cake and eat it - if we had carried on spending would the debt be less? Most of those points are subjective. Anyone who thinks things are worse now than 2008 is utterly deluded.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Think of higher education as an investment. Just as you can get grants for investment in business. Or tax breaks for setting up companies in certain areas of the country to boost the local economy. I mean God forbid these companies should invest/spend their own money.

And yes that's exactly how the people who choose to go to university should see it. Invest in yourself and pay for it yourself because you will get the rewards. Don't expect everyone else to pay for you!!

 

[Damocles]

And yes that's exactly how the people who choose to go to university should see it. Invest in yourself and pay for it yourself because you will get the rewards. Don't expect everyone else to pay for you!!

Interesting that the more educated you are, the more likely to vote Labour and the less educated you are, the more likely you are to vote Tory. Notice that the highest Labour voting bloc were those that have finished University and not those IN University. I'd argue that many people who went to Uni understand the social and economic good that it brings to the country as a whole and are willing to sacrifice a small amount of their taxes to ensure access to higher education is as low cost and free as possible.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Think of higher education as an investment. Just as you can get grants for investment in business. Or tax breaks for setting up companies in certain areas of the country to boost the local economy. I mean God forbid these companies should invest/spend their own money.

it is an investment, one for which the individual should pay for if they want a better future, just like the current and previous generation have had to with little hardship.

Any other format is just a generational bias tax on those who were born at the wrong time and is completely discriminatory against that generation in the workforce, who will have to pay for both the generation before and generations after to have a nice time without earning it and for free.