Post Match Thread: Election 2017

[Tim of the Oak]

He could bring the edge needed.

I reckon the Edge is PM material lol

 

[Gabriel]

Theresa May planning to run a two-year parliament with no Queen's Speech in 2018. At the same time, we can expect Conservative infighting to intensify over Brexit (Hammond on The Andrew Marr Show today) in the coming weeks, and there is already the threat of a stalking horse.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...heresa-may-ministers-threaten-stalking-horse/

 

[cibaman]

Theresa May planning to run a two-year parliament with no Queen's Speech in 2018. At the same time, we can expect Conservative infighting to intensify over Brexit (Hammond on The Andrew Marr Show today) in the coming weeks, and there is already the threat of a stalking horse.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...heresa-may-ministers-threaten-stalking-horse/

If the Eurosceptics try to oust May if she waters down brexit, they might find that brexit doesn't happen at all. Some will argue that a watered down brexit isn't any better than no brexit. But a soft brexit can be hardened over time whereas if the referendum result is over turned by a 2nd referendum, that would be it for the forseeable future.

Before the election, I had taken the view that a 2nd referendum of the type proposed by the Lib dems would simply increase the Leave majority. Now I just don't think there's the same appetite for a hard brexit, largely because it requires immense confidence in the government to steer the country through post brexit waters. That confidence just isn't there anymore.

 

[Gabriel]

If the Eurosceptics try to oust May if she waters down brexit, they might find that brexit doesn't happen at all. Some will argue that a watered down brexit isn't any better than no brexit. But a soft brexit can be hardened over time whereas if the referendum result is over turned by a 2nd referendum, that would be it for the forseeable future.

Before the election, I had taken the view that a 2nd referendum of the type proposed by the Lib dems would simply increase the Leave majority. Now I just don't think there's the same appetite for a hard brexit, largely because it requires immense confidence in the government to steer the country through post brexit waters. That confidence just isn't there anymore.

Agree.

I also think emotions on Brexit need to be seen in the context of the economic health of the country. The UK was riding high in the run up to the 2016 referendum, but the signs now are that the promise of free beer tomorrow will be of little comfort to the person struggling to get by today. And today is only going to get harder.

 

[cibaman]

Agree.

I also think emotions on Brexit need to be seen in the context of the economic health of the country. The UK was riding high in the run up to the 2016 referendum, but the signs now are that the promise of free beer tomorrow will be of little comfort to the person struggling to get by today. And today is only going to get harder.

There's a pub near me advertising FREE BEER. When you get up close the sign actually says FREE wifi . Great BEER. I think for many Leavers brexit might end up like that.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

There's a pub near me advertising FREE BEER. When you get up close the sign actually says FREE wifi . Great BEER. I think for many Leavers brexit might end up like that.

difference is anyone with a brain walking up to a pub that advertised free beer would know that they couldn't possibly be offering free beer as that would be stupid, so would settle happily for great beer.

 

[The perfect fumble]

difference is anyone with a brain walking up to a pub that advertised free beer would know that they couldn't possibly be offering free beer as that would be stupid, so would settle happily for great beer.

Leavers are going to have to settle for weak beer, because that's all they're going to get.

 

[goalmole]

Theresa May planning to run a two-year parliament with no Queen's Speech in 2018. At the same time, we can expect Conservative infighting to intensify over Brexit (Hammond on The Andrew Marr Show today) in the coming weeks, and there is already the threat of a stalking horse.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...heresa-may-ministers-threaten-stalking-horse/

If this happens they'll tear themselves apart. I read yesterday a quote from a sitting Tory MP who briefed anonymously saying that the Tory factions hate each other so much it could cause the party to split.

 

[jay_mcfc]

If the Eurosceptics try to oust May if she waters down brexit, they might find that brexit doesn't happen at all. Some will argue that a watered down brexit isn't any better than no brexit. But a soft brexit can be hardened over time whereas if the referendum result is over turned by a 2nd referendum, that would be it for the forseeable future.

Before the election, I had taken the view that a 2nd referendum of the type proposed by the Lib dems would simply increase the Leave majority. Now I just don't think there's the same appetite for a hard brexit, largely because it requires immense confidence in the government to steer the country through post brexit waters. That confidence just isn't there anymore.

Agreed. The country is in no position to just walk away from the EU within 20 months. Something needs to give, such as immigration, and it needs to be done over a much longer period of time. I'd be looking at a decade to phase certain things out.

 

[jay_mcfc]

If this happens they'll tear themselves apart. I read yesterday a quote from a sitting Tory MP who briefed anonymously saying that the Tory factions hate each other so much it could cause the party to split.

Oh how the tables have turned. Just think where Labour was 7/8 weeks ago in comparison to the Cons and look at it now. Lovely.