Post Match Thread: Election 2017

[SWP's back]

The 'complications' that arise from the Tories and the DUP forming an alliance now being realized.
It is far more complicated than just adding the numbers together.

How shocking. You think there's more issues than most with regards a coalition involving the Tories.

 

[Chippy_boy]

May has a huge problem. The Tories less so.

She's clearly a goner mate. The question is when? If she goes now, that opens the door for Labour to demand that they have go at power, which cannot be justified based on their share of the vote and number of seats won.

 

[jonmcity]

Moyes, Van Gaal, May..............

looks like I night out in Benidorm. ha ha

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

As someone who is admittedly unfamiliar with the inner workings of politics; what happens if a coalition can't be formed?

 

[pirate]

She's clearly a goner mate. The question is when? If she goes now, that opens the door for Labour to demand that they have go at power, which cannot be justified based on their share of the vote and number of seats won.

I would say the same about any party, its the nature of a hung parliament

 

[PragueBlue]

No it's not.
There is the slight complication of how the Republicans will view this in Northern Ireland and whether this could have a destabilizing effect on the delicate political balance in the province.
Will we have a 'tail wagging the dog' situation whereby the DUP will ask for too much?
It is widely rumored that some liberal Tory MPs will not accept any deal with an Ulster party.

Of course there would be difficulties in a Tory/DUP alliance but I see it as the most likely outcome at present. Can't see it lasting long though.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

If they had played on until maybe August or September I do believe Labour would have made a good comeback to win. They really surprised me

 

[SWP's back]

Hoping for a minority Labour government via party vote

I'm hoping not.

Luckily I think I'll get my wish.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

As someone who is admittedly unfamiliar with the inner workings of politics; what happens if a coalition can't be formed?

Tories offer to for a minority gov. If that fails Labour offer, if that fails new election in 25 days. Joy!

 

[The perfect fumble]

If we think she has a problem getting 3 or 4 more MPs to support the conservatives its nothing compared with the problem Corbyn would have trying to unify MPs from 5 disparate parties to muster over 50 MPs from them. Ain't going to happen.

That's not the way it works. If Labour were given the opportunity of a Queen's speech they would front load it with goodies, policies that no "progressive" party could vote down and justify it to their constituents (and let the Tories back in for their troubles).

 

[sir baconface]

Its time to ask the really important question.

When Nicola Sturgeon gets the boots which person named after a fish will be leader of the SNP?

I am going for Finley Trout-Pollock

I understand @Magicpole's off-forum name is Jockie "Up yer Kilt" McFinnan-Haddock. Could he be a surprise contender?

 

[dickie davies]

Hahahahaha.

What a goal that was by Jeremy.
Those kids in the north (and south) stand were cheering alot.

My cynical side thinks that Goalkeeper 'May' of let that goal in though as she didn't want to exit the field anyway.

Strange innit!
Corbyn's supposedly done brilliantly, yet he's only seven seats up on Gordon Brown's last GE showing

 

[Chippy_boy]

nice spin chippy
you missed out the attempted character assasination the press attempted with Corbyn

Fair point. Had they not done that, he would doubtless have done better. Had the Tories not ran the worst campaign ever, they would doubtless have done better too.

Everyone seems to be going on about how well Corbyn did, and its true there are aspects of his campaigning style that work well. But if I was a Labour voter, I'd be sitting here thinking of what might have been, had Labour been led by someone like Chukka Ummuna, or Sadiq Khan, or Andy Burnham and didn't have some of the ludicrous hard left poiicies. I think you'd have a majority now.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

Tories offer to for a minority gov. If that fails Labour offer, if that fails new election in 25 days. Joy!

Ah right so from what I've read around looks like another election then haha

 

[CitizenTID]

This is complete bullshit, the DUP are not and have never been connected with terrorism.

In fact, the DUP are one of the few "tribal" parties that have always distanced themselves from paramilitaries/terrorism. I recommend reading up on the subject
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_loyalism

Ian Paisley supported paramilitaries. Those types threw grenades at funerals.

Let's not get into that though.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

That's not the way it works. If Labour were given the opportunity of a Queen's speech they would front load it with goodies, policies that no "progressive" party could vote down and justify it to their constituents (and let the Tories back in for their troubles).

But it would be voted down by Tory + DUP and no SF votes so it would fail.

 

[BlueAnorak]

As someone who is admittedly unfamiliar with the inner workings of politics; what happens if a coalition can't be formed?

Another election.

 

[jonmcity]

As someone who is admittedly unfamiliar with the inner workings of politics; what happens if a coalition can't be formed?

Conservatives would have a minority government. Would probably end up with another general election within six months.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

Conservatives would have a minority government. Would probably end up with another general election within six months.

This is probably going to sound silly; but what would happen if the same result was just reached? Do they keep voting until someone wins a majority?

 

[Cheesy]

How ironic is it that Corbyn is an Arsenal supporter?

They like to celebrate losing too ;-)