Predator drones

Not the source I'm looking for but a quick insight of how easy it is to be a suspected Terrorist in the U.S

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N-WK2KtxHfQ[/youtube]
 
TGR said:
Josh Blue said:
It is believed that 50 Civilians Are Killed For Every 1 Terrorist.

Pakistan suffers the most from Drone attacks and the causalities are believed to be as high as 3,299 which includes 197 children.

The list of countries that are subject to regular drone attacks are Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia.

The aim is to kill suspected terrorists with precision drone strikes. If the suspected terrorist is in a school then so be it, collateral damage. However to be suspected of being a terrorist you only have to be a Muslim man of military age.

Obama signs every drone strike off personally.

The mainstream media will rarely mention these tragedies and our cowardly government supports the program. People should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life but nobody seems to care?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4[/youtube]

Chilling evilness.

Hysterical post.
Drones dramatically reduce the risk of soldiers being killed whilst on special missions.
They would not knowingly strike a school full of children.
Pakistan gets hit often as they harbour terrorists (including Bin Laden)
Why does Obama sign of every strike personally? Because he takes such things extremely seriously (and I 'aint no Obama fan!)
Maybe we should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life caused by these terrorists - or would make people be 'bigots' 'racisits, 'right wingers' etc?
Your post is complete and total nonsense. if you have posted it seriously and its a wum you should ashamed of yourself.

Casualties in Iraq year on year

Year US UK Other Total
2001 12 0 0 12
2002 49 3 18 70
2003 48 0 10 58
2004 52 1 7 60
2005 99 1 31 131
2006 98 39 54 191
2007 117 42 73 232
2008 155 51 89 295
2009 317 108 96 521
2010 499 103 109 711
2011 418 46 102 566
2012 310 44 48 402
2013 27 3 5 35
Total 2201 441 642 328

Looks like the drones are doing a fine job in the last few years of keeping the numbers way below the pre drone era of the early part of the war.

The best thing that the world could do would be as hard as it sounds stop reacting to an incident like Boston as if it is the end of the free world as we know it. If you want to stop the terrorists creating "terror" then not acting like you are scared insane (from something that would have made our grandparents and great grandparents not even flinch)is not a bad way to go about it.
 
TGR said:
Ragnarok said:
Tuearts right boot said:
That unfounately is the nature of the beast. Terrorists dont wear uniforms and 'hide' amongst civilians. No easy way either way.

Surely there has to be a better way than killing countless number of innocent civilians. But anyway thats Americas strong point. Their constitution virtually allows them to do anything at all to further their interests without regard for the consequences. Its the main reason they are the most powerful country in the world at the moment

-- Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:46 pm --

TGR said:
Hysterical post.
Drones dramatically reduce the risk of soldiers being killed whilst on special missions.
They would not knowingly strike a school full of children.
Pakistan gets hit often as they harbour terrorists (including Bin Laden)
Why does Obama sign of every strike personally? Because he takes such things extremely seriously (and I 'aint no Obama fan!)
Maybe we should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life caused by these terrorists - or would make people be 'bigots' 'racisits, 'right wingers' etc?
Your post is complete and total nonsense. if you have posted it seriously and its a wum you should ashamed of yourself.

I assume the tens of hundreds of innocents who die every month should be ashamed of themselves too ....
I assume you mean the innocent people killed by the terrorists?

Oh right. Just because some extremist nutjobs conducted some terrorist attacks gives you the right to kill tens of thousands of innocents. Sure, sound logic.
 
TGR said:
Josh Blue said:
It is believed that 50 Civilians Are Killed For Every 1 Terrorist.

Pakistan suffers the most from Drone attacks and the causalities are believed to be as high as 3,299 which includes 197 children.

The list of countries that are subject to regular drone attacks are Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia.

The aim is to kill suspected terrorists with precision drone strikes. If the suspected terrorist is in a school then so be it, collateral damage. However to be suspected of being a terrorist you only have to be a Muslim man of military age.

Obama signs every drone strike off personally.

The mainstream media will rarely mention these tragedies and our cowardly government supports the program. People should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life but nobody seems to care?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4[/youtube]

Chilling evilness.

Hysterical post.
Drones dramatically reduce the risk of soldiers being killed whilst on special missions.
They would not knowingly strike a school full of children.
Pakistan gets hit often as they harbour terrorists (including Bin Laden)
Why does Obama sign of every strike personally? Because he takes such things extremely seriously (and I 'aint no Obama fan!)
Maybe we should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life caused by these terrorists - or would make people be 'bigots' 'racisits, 'right wingers' etc?
Your post is complete and total nonsense. if you have posted it seriously and its not a wum you should ashamed of yourself.

Pakistan were harboring Bin Laden? He was an ex CIA tactian hiding in Pakistan. The U.S didn't need him anymore so stormed in a killed him (if he wasn't dead already).

I am up in arms about an innocent loss of life. A suicide bomber is a terrorist but these drone strikes are also the act of terrorism.
 
Josh Blue said:
pominoz said:
Josh Blue said:
Peoples mothers, fathers and kids wiped out instantly just because a terrorist is in the area. Horrible stuff.

Edit- remember 7/7, 9/11, Bali, Madrid?
We are fighting a war here and unfortunately there will be civilian casualty's.
Better than carpet bombing of cities as was done in the past.

Are we fighting a war? Who is we?

Are the people of Yemen and Pakistan fighting a war?

Yes we are fighting a war.

Western and most eastern society's.

Maybe not the people but a good amount of their leadership seem to be supporting those that wish us great harm.
 
Josh Blue said:
TGR said:
Josh Blue said:
It is believed that 50 Civilians Are Killed For Every 1 Terrorist.

Pakistan suffers the most from Drone attacks and the causalities are believed to be as high as 3,299 which includes 197 children.

The list of countries that are subject to regular drone attacks are Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia.

The aim is to kill suspected terrorists with precision drone strikes. If the suspected terrorist is in a school then so be it, collateral damage. However to be suspected of being a terrorist you only have to be a Muslim man of military age.

Obama signs every drone strike off personally.

The mainstream media will rarely mention these tragedies and our cowardly government supports the program. People should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life but nobody seems to care?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4[/youtube]

Chilling evilness.

Hysterical post.
Drones dramatically reduce the risk of soldiers being killed whilst on special missions.
They would not knowingly strike a school full of children.
Pakistan gets hit often as they harbour terrorists (including Bin Laden)
Why does Obama sign of every strike personally? Because he takes such things extremely seriously (and I 'aint no Obama fan!)
Maybe we should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life caused by these terrorists - or would make people be 'bigots' 'racisits, 'right wingers' etc?
Your post is complete and total nonsense. if you have posted it seriously and its not a wum you should ashamed of yourself.

Pakistan were harboring Bin Laden? He was an ex CIA tactian hiding in Pakistan. The U.S didn't need him anymore so stormed in a killed him (if he wasn't dead already).

I am up in arms about an innocent loss of life. A suicide bomber is a terrorist but these drone strikes are also the act of terrorism.

All the proof we needed of who is the 'nutjob'.
Give me strength!
 
bonespost said:
Are the RAF flying USAF drones still .

It was announced yesterday that the RAF flew its first drone missions over Afghanistan from British soil.
 
TGR said:
Josh Blue said:
TGR said:
Hysterical post.
Drones dramatically reduce the risk of soldiers being killed whilst on special missions.
They would not knowingly strike a school full of children.
Pakistan gets hit often as they harbour terrorists (including Bin Laden)
Why does Obama sign of every strike personally? Because he takes such things extremely seriously (and I 'aint no Obama fan!)
Maybe we should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life caused by these terrorists - or would make people be 'bigots' 'racisits, 'right wingers' etc?
Your post is complete and total nonsense. if you have posted it seriously and its not a wum you should ashamed of yourself.

Pakistan were harboring Bin Laden? He was an ex CIA tactian hiding in Pakistan. The U.S didn't need him anymore so stormed in a killed him (if he wasn't dead already).

I am up in arms about an innocent loss of life. A suicide bomber is a terrorist but these drone strikes are also the act of terrorism.

All the proof we needed of who is the 'nutjob'.
Give me strength!

What the hell!? What is abnormal about anything you highlighted?
 
What i find pathetic is when on one side innocents are killed, its terrorism ( and it is ) but on the other side of the coin its seems to be perfectly acceptable. Pathetic. I thought terrorism broadly means killing of innocent people in a act of aggression against a particular country. If that doesnt define what the US and EU are doing to Afghanistan,Pakistan,yemen etc i dont know what does.
 
Ragnarok said:
What i find pathetic is when on one side innocents are killed, its terrorism ( and it is ) but on the other side of the coin its seems to be perfectly acceptable. Pathetic. I thought terrorism broadly means killing of innocent people in a act of aggression against a particular country. If that doesnt define what the US and EU are doing to Afghanistan,Pakistan,yemen etc i dont know what does.

What would be your reaction to state sponcered/supported terrorism?
Invite them around to tea and cakes, and have a chat about it?
 
pominoz said:
Ragnarok said:
What i find pathetic is when on one side innocents are killed, its terrorism ( and it is ) but on the other side of the coin its seems to be perfectly acceptable. Pathetic. I thought terrorism broadly means killing of innocent people in a act of aggression against a particular country. If that doesnt define what the US and EU are doing to Afghanistan,Pakistan,yemen etc i dont know what does.

What would be your reaction to state sponcered/supported terrorism?
Invite them around to tea and cakes, and have a chat about it?

There is something called diplomacy. If your idea of responding to killing of innocents is the killing of even more innocents, then i despair.
 
pominoz said:
Ragnarok said:
What i find pathetic is when on one side innocents are killed, its terrorism ( and it is ) but on the other side of the coin its seems to be perfectly acceptable. Pathetic. I thought terrorism broadly means killing of innocent people in a act of aggression against a particular country. If that doesnt define what the US and EU are doing to Afghanistan,Pakistan,yemen etc i dont know what does.

What would be your reaction to state sponcered/supported terrorism?
Invite them around to tea and cakes, and have a chat about it?

You do realise the U.S has a very long history of sponsoring terrorism? Lately it had been Libya and Syria.
 
Between 2003 and 2010, suicide bomb attacks accounted for the deaths of over 12000 innocent Iraqi civilians whilst claiming the lives of just over 200 servicemen.

That to me says it all and yes, the use of drone attacks or pin pointed missile strikes may well account for the unfortunate and tragic deaths of a small number of innocent civilians, the real culprits and mass murderers continue to be the insurgents and terrorists.
 
Josh Blue said:
pominoz said:
Ragnarok said:
What i find pathetic is when on one side innocents are killed, its terrorism ( and it is ) but on the other side of the coin its seems to be perfectly acceptable. Pathetic. I thought terrorism broadly means killing of innocent people in a act of aggression against a particular country. If that doesnt define what the US and EU are doing to Afghanistan,Pakistan,yemen etc i dont know what does.

What would be your reaction to state sponcered/supported terrorism?
Invite them around to tea and cakes, and have a chat about it?

You do realise the U.S has a very long history of sponsoring terrorism? Lately it had been Libya and Syria.

Yes i do, but i do not see the helping to overthrow murderous dictators as an act of terrorism.
 
pominoz said:
Josh Blue said:
pominoz said:
What would be your reaction to state sponcered/supported terrorism?
Invite them around to tea and cakes, and have a chat about it?

You do realise the U.S has a very long history of sponsoring terrorism? Lately it had been Libya and Syria.

Yes i do, but i do not see the helping to overthrow murderous dictators as an act of terrorism.

Bloody hell, I best warn Rascal...
 
TGR said:
Josh Blue said:
TGR said:
Hysterical post.
Drones dramatically reduce the risk of soldiers being killed whilst on special missions.
They would not knowingly strike a school full of children.
Pakistan gets hit often as they harbour terrorists (including Bin Laden)
Why does Obama sign of every strike personally? Because he takes such things extremely seriously (and I 'aint no Obama fan!)
Maybe we should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life caused by these terrorists - or would make people be 'bigots' 'racisits, 'right wingers' etc?
Your post is complete and total nonsense. if you have posted it seriously and its not a wum you should ashamed of yourself.

Pakistan were harboring Bin Laden? He was an ex CIA tactian hiding in Pakistan. The U.S didn't need him anymore so stormed in a killed him (if he wasn't dead already).

I am up in arms about an innocent loss of life. A suicide bomber is a terrorist but these drone strikes are also the act of terrorism.

All the proof we needed of who is the 'nutjob'.
Give me strength!

Why, Do you believe he was shot and buried at sea 24hrs later?
 
pominoz said:
Josh Blue said:
pominoz said:
What would be your reaction to state sponcered/supported terrorism?
Invite them around to tea and cakes, and have a chat about it?

You do realise the U.S has a very long history of sponsoring terrorism? Lately it had been Libya and Syria.

Yes i do, but i do not see the helping to overthrow murderous dictators as an act of terrorism.

That's funny because some murderous dictators are supported by the U.S but others overthrown?

We are going a little of the point from Predator drones but interesting debate nonetheless.
The Libyan 'Rebels' are Islamic extremists, the same as the ones in Syria, Yemen, Pakistan etc. So whats the difference?

I'm not saying Gaddafi wasn't a terrible person but Libya was a much safer country under him than it is now.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XorKTwkFPDU[/youtube]

A video about Libya under Gaddafi if you have the time.
 

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