Predator drones

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

What video did I watch then chap? I said I had them bookmarked.

Okay but you if you had bothered to watch it then you would have realised it was a waste of time because it is just like any other truther with a youtube channel; they raise valid criticisms of US foreign policy in the 1st minute and then descend into fantasy stories about reptilians NWO etc.

If Unknown Genius wants to post crap then let him do it but if you have to satisfy him with a response then at least bother to watch a bit of it to find out what type of response it deserves.

I've been working so didn't have the time. I will watch them when I can.

Depends what you mean by fantasy stories because unfortunately false flags are anything but fantasy.

I expected this, I was n't chastising you for not watching it merely if you give a response know what you are responding to otherwise you will be thrown in with them unknowingly. You showed before that you were unaware of al-Qaeda's motivation so forgive me for thinking you somewhat naive. Unknown Genius seems to have a history of posting nonsense so from my point of view really is n't worth debating with.

Do you want to elaborate on false flags?; Factual evidence.

 

[mrcunny]

Who backed Bin Laden?

Who trained and armed his followers?

suicide bombers pick their targets dont they.if the drones are hitting their targets,i have no problem with this.
surely you cant just blame the yanks,if i knew i was a target i sure wouldnt have my family around me.or if i knew ted the terrorist was a target would i fuck nip around for afternoon tea...
The problem is the terrorists think they are untouchable and thats the only reason they are moaning about the drones,obviously they are doing a mighty fine job.

You obviously don't understand. It's not the terrorists moaning by the way, it's me.

I dont know you,you might be a muslim extremist :-)

 

[Josh Blue]

Okay but you if you had bothered to watch it then you would have realised it was a waste of time because it is just like any other truther with a youtube channel; they raise valid criticisms of US foreign policy in the 1st minute and then descend into fantasy stories about reptilians NWO etc.

If Unknown Genius wants to post crap then let him do it but if you have to satisfy him with a response then at least bother to watch a bit of it to find out what type of response it deserves.

I've been working so didn't have the time. I will watch them when I can.

Depends what you mean by fantasy stories because unfortunately false flags are anything but fantasy.

I expected this, I was n't chastising you for not watching it merely if you give a response know what you are responding to otherwise you will be thrown in with them unknowingly. You showed before that you were unaware of al-Qaeda's motivation so forgive me for thinking you somewhat naive. Unknown Genius seems to have a history of posting nonsense so from my point of view really is n't worth debating with.

Do you want to elaborate on false flags?; Factual evidence.

There is a long, long list of factual false flag attacks throughout history. They started in the Navy when ships would use a different flag when carrying out some sort of attack.

The most relevant FACTUAL false flag is one that was planned but never actually took place.

Operation Northwoods

The planned, but never executed, 1962 Operation Northwoods plot by the U.S. Department of Defense for a war with Cuba involved scenarios such as fabricating the hijacking or shooting down of passenger and military planes, sinking a U.S. ship in the vicinity of Cuba, burning crops, sinking a boat filled with Cuban refugees, attacks by alleged Cuban infiltrators inside the United States, and harassment of U.S. aircraft and shipping and the destruction of aerial drones by aircraft disguised as Cuban MiGs. These actions would be blamed on Cuba, and would be a pretext for an invasion of Cuba and the overthrow of Fidel Castro's communist government. It was authored by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy. The surprise discovery of the documents relating to Operation Northwoods was a result of the comprehensive search for records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy by the Assassination Records Review Board in the mid-1990s. Information about Operation Northwoods was later publicized by James Bamford.

If this could be planned why could the same country not use the false flag tactic for their own agenda?

 

[Unknown_Genius]

You are right; US has had a role in numerous conflicts supporting their own puppets in government and recruiting groups to fight on their side Bay of pigs etc. However Unknown Genius posted a video that contained rhetoric about a false flag operation, Islamic terrorists being US backed mercenaries; who carried out 9/11. The real figure head was Ayman al-Zawahiri who is a US puppet and since Bin Laden's death the head of al-Qaeda.

Josh Blue watched this video but did n't even address this point; discussion of CIA dodgy dealings and Military industrial complex fuelled war is a valid debate, but false flag attacks by a country against its own people is frankly absurd.

What video did I watch then chap? I said I had them bookmarked.

Okay but you if you had bothered to watch it then you would have realised it was a waste of time because it is just like any other truther with a youtube channel; they raise valid criticisms of US foreign policy in the 1st minute and then descend into fantasy stories about reptilians NWO etc.

If Unknown Genius wants to post crap then let him do it but if you have to satisfy him with a response then at least bother to watch a bit of it to find out what type of response it deserves.

What are you on about? It doesn't mention anything about NWO or reptiles. If you want to go ahead and "debunk" (though its difficult when the information is factual) the video, be my guest, and you haven't done that at all. You've just seen something you didn't like and go on off making out its another Alex Jones esque video, when if you actually watch many of that guys videos (like I have) its clear he hates Jones and takes the piss out of "conspiratards". I'm not getting into 9/11 here, as it would take ages and I can't be bothered. There's a lot of stuff said about conspiracies by Alex Jones, (a well poisoner), but that's no reason to reject them and false flags, they've happened. The two extremes of rejecting anything dodge categorically, and accepting any, have got to go. I like Ryan Dawson's videos, he's a straight up guy, doesn't get into generic, wispy labels like NWO, "Inside Job", Rothschild's, etc, and really knows his stuff. No, he's not a "truther".

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

I've been working so didn't have the time. I will watch them when I can.

Depends what you mean by fantasy stories because unfortunately false flags are anything but fantasy.

I expected this, I was n't chastising you for not watching it merely if you give a response know what you are responding to otherwise you will be thrown in with them unknowingly. You showed before that you were unaware of al-Qaeda's motivation so forgive me for thinking you somewhat naive. Unknown Genius seems to have a history of posting nonsense so from my point of view really is n't worth debating with.

Do you want to elaborate on false flags?; Factual evidence.

There is a long, long list of factual false flag attacks throughout history. They started in the Navy when ships would use a different flag when carrying out some sort of attack.

The most relevant FACTUAL false flag is one that was planned but never actually took place.

Operation Northwoods

The planned, but never executed, 1962 Operation Northwoods plot by the U.S. Department of Defense for a war with Cuba involved scenarios such as fabricating the hijacking or shooting down of passenger and military planes, sinking a U.S. ship in the vicinity of Cuba, burning crops, sinking a boat filled with Cuban refugees, attacks by alleged Cuban infiltrators inside the United States, and harassment of U.S. aircraft and shipping and the destruction of aerial drones by aircraft disguised as Cuban MiGs. These actions would be blamed on Cuba, and would be a pretext for an invasion of Cuba and the overthrow of Fidel Castro's communist government. It was authored by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy. The surprise discovery of the documents relating to Operation Northwoods was a result of the comprehensive search for records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy by the Assassination Records Review Board in the mid-1990s. Information about Operation Northwoods was later publicized by James Bamford.

If this could be planned why could the same country not use the false flag tactic for their own agenda?

It was planned but it was never carried out, fine if you want to play devil's advocate but I would n't go further.

Unknown genius, yes that guy is a truther; he takes any bit of truth adds a whole load of junk and runs with it. He does n't mention the stuff I mentioned because he knows how to use subtlety better than David Icke and Alex Jones. however, he is talking nonsense and you know it.

 

[Josh Blue]

I expected this, I was n't chastising you for not watching it merely if you give a response know what you are responding to otherwise you will be thrown in with them unknowingly. You showed before that you were unaware of al-Qaeda's motivation so forgive me for thinking you somewhat naive. Unknown Genius seems to have a history of posting nonsense so from my point of view really is n't worth debating with.

Do you want to elaborate on false flags?; Factual evidence.

There is a long, long list of factual false flag attacks throughout history. They started in the Navy when ships would use a different flag when carrying out some sort of attack.

The most relevant FACTUAL false flag is one that was planned but never actually took place.

Operation Northwoods

The planned, but never executed, 1962 Operation Northwoods plot by the U.S. Department of Defense for a war with Cuba involved scenarios such as fabricating the hijacking or shooting down of passenger and military planes, sinking a U.S. ship in the vicinity of Cuba, burning crops, sinking a boat filled with Cuban refugees, attacks by alleged Cuban infiltrators inside the United States, and harassment of U.S. aircraft and shipping and the destruction of aerial drones by aircraft disguised as Cuban MiGs. These actions would be blamed on Cuba, and would be a pretext for an invasion of Cuba and the overthrow of Fidel Castro's communist government. It was authored by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy. The surprise discovery of the documents relating to Operation Northwoods was a result of the comprehensive search for records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy by the Assassination Records Review Board in the mid-1990s. Information about Operation Northwoods was later publicized by James Bamford.

If this could be planned why could the same country not use the false flag tactic for their own agenda?

It was planned but it was never carried out, fine if you want to play devil's advocate but I would n't go further.

Unknown genius, yes that guy is a truther; he takes any bit of truth adds a whole load of junk and runs with it. He does n't mention the stuff I mentioned because he knows how to use subtlety better than David Icke and Alex Jones. however, he is talking nonsense and you know it.

There is a long history of false flags like I said, you should look up some confirmed ones.

It is fact they happened in the past now we have the declassified documents, it would be very naive to think they no longer exist.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

There is a long, long list of factual false flag attacks throughout history. They started in the Navy when ships would use a different flag when carrying out some sort of attack.

The most relevant FACTUAL false flag is one that was planned but never actually took place.

Operation Northwoods

The planned, but never executed, 1962 Operation Northwoods plot by the U.S. Department of Defense for a war with Cuba involved scenarios such as fabricating the hijacking or shooting down of passenger and military planes, sinking a U.S. ship in the vicinity of Cuba, burning crops, sinking a boat filled with Cuban refugees, attacks by alleged Cuban infiltrators inside the United States, and harassment of U.S. aircraft and shipping and the destruction of aerial drones by aircraft disguised as Cuban MiGs. These actions would be blamed on Cuba, and would be a pretext for an invasion of Cuba and the overthrow of Fidel Castro's communist government. It was authored by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy. The surprise discovery of the documents relating to Operation Northwoods was a result of the comprehensive search for records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy by the Assassination Records Review Board in the mid-1990s. Information about Operation Northwoods was later publicized by James Bamford.

If this could be planned why could the same country not use the false flag tactic for their own agenda?

It was planned but it was never carried out, fine if you want to play devil's advocate but I would n't go further.

Unknown genius, yes that guy is a truther; he takes any bit of truth adds a whole load of junk and runs with it. He does n't mention the stuff I mentioned because he knows how to use subtlety better than David Icke and Alex Jones. however, he is talking nonsense and you know it.

There is a long history of false flags like I said, you should look up some confirmed ones.

It is fact they happened in the past now we have the declassified documents, it would be very naive to think they no longer exist.

You provided one example that was never carried out. There is a reason to think they don't exist, because there is no need for them. you can just exaggerate existing events and conflicts to influence foreign policy; it makes no sense to give Islamic extremists finance and munitions and get them to carry out attacks against your own people.

 

[MadchesterCity]

It is believed that 50 Civilians Are Killed For Every 1 Terrorist.

Pakistan suffers the most from Drone attacks and the causalities are believed to be as high as 3,299 which includes 197 children.

The list of countries that are subject to regular drone attacks are Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia.

The aim is to kill suspected terrorists with precision drone strikes. If the suspected terrorist is in a school then so be it, collateral damage. However to be suspected of being a terrorist you only have to be a Muslim man of military age.

Obama signs every drone strike off personally.

The mainstream media will rarely mention these tragedies and our cowardly government supports the program. People should be up in arms about the tragic loss of human life but nobody seems to care?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4[/youtube]

Chilling evilness.

Woah garbage alert

 

[Josh Blue]

It was planned but it was never carried out, fine if you want to play devil's advocate but I would n't go further.

Unknown genius, yes that guy is a truther; he takes any bit of truth adds a whole load of junk and runs with it. He does n't mention the stuff I mentioned because he knows how to use subtlety better than David Icke and Alex Jones. however, he is talking nonsense and you know it.

There is a long history of false flags like I said, you should look up some confirmed ones.

It is fact they happened in the past now we have the declassified documents, it would be very naive to think they no longer exist.

You provided one example that was never carried out. There is a reason to think they don't exist, because there is no need for them. you can just exaggerate existing events and conflicts to influence foreign policy; it makes no sense to give Islamic extremists finance and munitions and get them to carry out attacks against your own people.

Actually it does, especially if you want to make a shit load of money and change a shit load of laws.

You don't want to believe in it that's fair enough.

If you change your mind and want to read some historical false flags which are now written down as fact, here you go: Russo-Swedish War, Spanish–American War, Mukden incident, Gleiwitz incident, WW2 Winter War, Kassa attack, Operation Ajax(very interesting) and the Reichstag fire.

The above are all fact.

I'm not here to convince you of anything, if you don't want to believe that false flags happen then be my guest, no skin off my nose. You are entitled to believe what you want to believe but the information is there if you want it.

 

[Unknown_Genius]

I expected this, I was n't chastising you for not watching it merely if you give a response know what you are responding to otherwise you will be thrown in with them unknowingly. You showed before that you were unaware of al-Qaeda's motivation so forgive me for thinking you somewhat naive. Unknown Genius seems to have a history of posting nonsense so from my point of view really is n't worth debating with.

Do you want to elaborate on false flags?; Factual evidence.

There is a long, long list of factual false flag attacks throughout history. They started in the Navy when ships would use a different flag when carrying out some sort of attack.

The most relevant FACTUAL false flag is one that was planned but never actually took place.

Operation Northwoods

The planned, but never executed, 1962 Operation Northwoods plot by the U.S. Department of Defense for a war with Cuba involved scenarios such as fabricating the hijacking or shooting down of passenger and military planes, sinking a U.S. ship in the vicinity of Cuba, burning crops, sinking a boat filled with Cuban refugees, attacks by alleged Cuban infiltrators inside the United States, and harassment of U.S. aircraft and shipping and the destruction of aerial drones by aircraft disguised as Cuban MiGs. These actions would be blamed on Cuba, and would be a pretext for an invasion of Cuba and the overthrow of Fidel Castro's communist government. It was authored by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy. The surprise discovery of the documents relating to Operation Northwoods was a result of the comprehensive search for records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy by the Assassination Records Review Board in the mid-1990s. Information about Operation Northwoods was later publicized by James Bamford.

If this could be planned why could the same country not use the false flag tactic for their own agenda?

It was planned but it was never carried out, fine if you want to play devil's advocate but I would n't go further.

Unknown genius, yes that guy is a truther; he takes any bit of truth adds a whole load of junk and runs with it. He does n't mention the stuff I mentioned because he knows how to use subtlety better than David Icke and Alex Jones. however, he is talking nonsense and you know it.

If you're talking about the 9/11 stuff he mentions, then fine, I'm not here to convince you of anything, you're free to believe whatever. However, there's information on it in the mainstream media, freely available.