Premier League Champions Calculation

[Vienna_70]

http://www.euroclubindex.com/asp/leagueodds.asp

Right now 80 wins it. Exactly 80.

That may as well be a link to a picture of a cat.

I'd like that.

1 Arsenal (3540) 12 28 79 40.0%
2 Chelsea (3592) 12 24 77 22.4%
3 Manchester United (3721) 12 21 76 17.1%
4 Manchester City (3509) 12 22 73 13.7%
5 Liverpool (3082) 12 24 66 3.6%
6 Tottenham Hotspur (3269) 12 20 66 2.0%
7 Everton (3051) 12 21 63 1.0%
8 Newcastle United (2693) 12 20 55 0.2%
9 Southampton (2383) 12 22 50 0.0%
10 West Bromwich Albion (2499) 11 14 47 0.0%
11 Aston Villa (2472) 11 14 47 0.0%
12 Swansea City (2492) 12 15 46 0.0%
13 Cardiff City (2133) 12 13 42 0.0%
14 Stoke City (2403) 12 13 42 0.0%
15 Norwich City (2256) 12 11 39 0.0%
16 Fulham (2354) 12 10 39 0.0%
17 West Ham United (2330) 12 10 38 0.0%
18 Hull City (1939) 12 14 38 0.0%
19 Sunderland (2185) 12 7 33 0.0%
20 Crystal Palace (1753) 12 7 29 0.0%

-- Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:03 pm --

http://www.euroclubindex.com/asp/leagueodds.asp

Right now 80 wins it. Exactly 80.

I have no idea what deluded maths they used for those predictions. United are -10 points on their performance last season and yet they are predicting they will finish above us with our +3. Bonkers.

But the rags won it by more than that least season and have played harder fixtures than us so far. Not deluded just objective. We might be top in a month or so and you'll agree then ;-)

We've both played Cardiff, Stoke, Norwich and Chelsea, as well as playing each other, when, in case you missed it, we annihilated the dirty fuckers!

 

[Chippy_boy]

http://www.euroclubindex.com/asp/leagueodds.asp

Right now 80 wins it. Exactly 80.

That may as well be a link to a picture of a cat.

I'd like that.

1 Arsenal (3540) 12 28 79 40.0%
2 Chelsea (3592) 12 24 77 22.4%
3 Manchester United (3721) 12 21 76 17.1%
4 Manchester City (3509) 12 22 73 13.7%
5 Liverpool (3082) 12 24 66 3.6%
6 Tottenham Hotspur (3269) 12 20 66 2.0%
7 Everton (3051) 12 21 63 1.0%
8 Newcastle United (2693) 12 20 55 0.2%
9 Southampton (2383) 12 22 50 0.0%
10 West Bromwich Albion (2499) 11 14 47 0.0%
11 Aston Villa (2472) 11 14 47 0.0%
12 Swansea City (2492) 12 15 46 0.0%
13 Cardiff City (2133) 12 13 42 0.0%
14 Stoke City (2403) 12 13 42 0.0%
15 Norwich City (2256) 12 11 39 0.0%
16 Fulham (2354) 12 10 39 0.0%
17 West Ham United (2330) 12 10 38 0.0%
18 Hull City (1939) 12 14 38 0.0%
19 Sunderland (2185) 12 7 33 0.0%
20 Crystal Palace (1753) 12 7 29 0.0%

-- Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:03 pm --

http://www.euroclubindex.com/asp/leagueodds.asp

Right now 80 wins it. Exactly 80.

I have no idea what deluded maths they used for those predictions. United are -10 points on their performance last season and yet they are predicting they will finish above us with our +3. Bonkers.

But the rags won it by more than that least season and have played harder fixtures than us so far. Not deluded just objective. We might be top in a month or so and you'll agree then ;-)

No.

They won it by 12, and we are showing +13 compared to last season. -10 for them and +3 for us.

And the stats are based on who they have played like for like, so the "harder fixtures" is irrelevant. They are -10 points down on those same fixtures last year.

But somehow this all means we will be 4th and them 3rd. I'd bet my house on that not being the final outcome.

 

[Cobwebcat]

That may as well be a link to a picture of a cat.

I'd like that.

1 Arsenal (3540) 12 28 79 40.0%
2 Chelsea (3592) 12 24 77 22.4%
3 Manchester United (3721) 12 21 76 17.1%
4 Manchester City (3509) 12 22 73 13.7%
5 Liverpool (3082) 12 24 66 3.6%
6 Tottenham Hotspur (3269) 12 20 66 2.0%
7 Everton (3051) 12 21 63 1.0%
8 Newcastle United (2693) 12 20 55 0.2%
9 Southampton (2383) 12 22 50 0.0%
10 West Bromwich Albion (2499) 11 14 47 0.0%
11 Aston Villa (2472) 11 14 47 0.0%
12 Swansea City (2492) 12 15 46 0.0%
13 Cardiff City (2133) 12 13 42 0.0%
14 Stoke City (2403) 12 13 42 0.0%
15 Norwich City (2256) 12 11 39 0.0%
16 Fulham (2354) 12 10 39 0.0%
17 West Ham United (2330) 12 10 38 0.0%
18 Hull City (1939) 12 14 38 0.0%
19 Sunderland (2185) 12 7 33 0.0%
20 Crystal Palace (1753) 12 7 29 0.0%

-- Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:03 pm --

I have no idea what deluded maths they used for those predictions. United are -10 points on their performance last season and yet they are predicting they will finish above us with our +3. Bonkers.

But the rags won it by more than that least season and have played harder fixtures than us so far. Not deluded just objective. We might be top in a month or so and you'll agree then ;-)

We've both played Cardiff, Stoke, Norwich and Chelsea, as well as playing each other, when, in case you missed it, we annihilated the dirty fuckers!

Too small a data set. But yes I remember it well :-)

 

[Vienna_70]

I'd like that.

1 Arsenal (3540) 12 28 79 40.0%
2 Chelsea (3592) 12 24 77 22.4%
3 Manchester United (3721) 12 21 76 17.1%
4 Manchester City (3509) 12 22 73 13.7%
5 Liverpool (3082) 12 24 66 3.6%
6 Tottenham Hotspur (3269) 12 20 66 2.0%
7 Everton (3051) 12 21 63 1.0%
8 Newcastle United (2693) 12 20 55 0.2%
9 Southampton (2383) 12 22 50 0.0%
10 West Bromwich Albion (2499) 11 14 47 0.0%
11 Aston Villa (2472) 11 14 47 0.0%
12 Swansea City (2492) 12 15 46 0.0%
13 Cardiff City (2133) 12 13 42 0.0%
14 Stoke City (2403) 12 13 42 0.0%
15 Norwich City (2256) 12 11 39 0.0%
16 Fulham (2354) 12 10 39 0.0%
17 West Ham United (2330) 12 10 38 0.0%
18 Hull City (1939) 12 14 38 0.0%
19 Sunderland (2185) 12 7 33 0.0%
20 Crystal Palace (1753) 12 7 29 0.0%

-- Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:03 pm --



But the rags won it by more than that least season and have played harder fixtures than us so far. Not deluded just objective. We might be top in a month or so and you'll agree then ;-)

We've both played Cardiff, Stoke, Norwich and Chelsea, as well as playing each other, when, in case you missed it, we annihilated the dirty fuckers!

Too small a data set. But yes I remember it well :-)

We're only 12 games into the season, and already a third of our games have been against common opponents, as well as playing each other.

It's not that small a sample, IMHO.

 

[K-Bo]

I think it could be less than 80. Nobody's getting near 89 points this season. Nowhere near. I know people fear United, but Moyes is too negative. He'll draw games because he's afraid to lose them, a bit like Mancini last year, whereas we'll lose more games than them but also win more. And ultimately that will leave us above them for me.

Dunno, Clearly no-one's peaking this year, except possibly Arsenal. But we'll have to see. Still very possible, but we'll have to beat a couple of the big teams away probably.

 

[mcfcirlam]

Thursday 5th December.
Since my last post the calculation is still on target.
3pts v Swansea, still no points dropped at home.
3pts at West Brom now means we need 16 points from 12 games if the winning total is 80pts.(Adjust as you feel necessary)
If we now win v Southampton, Arsenal, Fulham, Liverpool, Crystal Palace and Swansea this position on New Years night will be
that we will need 7 points from 9 games.
HAPPY NEW YEAR BLUES !!!!!!

 

[mcfcirlam]

Thursday 5th December.
Since my last post the calculation is still on target.
3pts v Swansea, still no points dropped at home.
3pts at West Brom now means we need 16 points from 12 games if the winning total is 80pts.(Adjust as you feel necessary)
If we now win v Southampton, Arsenal, Fulham, Liverpool, Crystal Palace and Swansea this position on New Years night will be
that we will need 7 points from 9 games.
HAPPY NEW YEAR BLUES !!!!!!

I hope I am not insulting anyones intelligence as we can all count, but I love putting on the positive spin when it comes to City.
A draw at Southampton, when we didnt play that well is a point gained, especially after the weekends results.
Maybe 80 points maybe more than enough the way things are going, but this is still the target for calculation purposes.
We now need 15 points from 11 games.

 

[trublue55]

Thursday 5th December.
Since my last post the calculation is still on target.
3pts v Swansea, still no points dropped at home.
3pts at West Brom now means we need 16 points from 12 games if the winning total is 80pts.(Adjust as you feel necessary)
If we now win v Southampton, Arsenal, Fulham, Liverpool, Crystal Palace and Swansea this position on New Years night will be
that we will need 7 points from 9 games.
HAPPY NEW YEAR BLUES !!!!!!

I hope I am not insulting anyones intelligence as we can all count, but I love putting on the positive spin when it comes to City.
A draw at Southampton, when we didnt play that well is a point gained, especially after the weekends results.
Maybe 80 points maybe more than enough the way things are going, but this is still the target for calculation purposes.
We now need 15 points from 11 games.

i love your optimism, but we simply will NOT WIN all of our remaining home games. We may well be capable of, but it simply won't happen! Too many variables / uncontrollables involved. Bad referees, bad luck, injuries to key players to name but a few.

I hope and believe we can win the title, how many points are needed? no idea, but i suspect we will need rather more than the 15 from 11 away games that you are alluding too!

 

[Champions2012!]

Needed to be Champions - 84
Points to be dropped at home - 5 (1 defeat, 1 draw)
Points needed away from home - 28 (8 wins, 4 draws, 1 defeat)

Not much room for error!

I can't see any side in the world beating us at home let alone a premier league side. Apart from bayern of course.

 

[Shirley]

Needed to be Champions - 84
Points to be dropped at home - 5 (1 defeat, 1 draw)
Points needed away from home - 28 (8 wins, 4 draws, 1 defeat)

Not much room for error!

I can't see any side in the world beating us at home let alone a premier league side. Apart from bayern of course.

Beat Arsenal on Saturday then I really believe we will finish with a 100% home record.
We need an early goal.