President Joe Biden

[west didsblue]

How so many religious groups thought he gave a shit is incredible.

I’m sure they didn’t. He was on the pro-life / anti-abortion bandwagon which was good enough for many of them. That and appointing anti Roe v Wade Supreme Court justices.

 

[SWP's back]

Wonder what @SWP's back makes of Biden’s religion ;-)

I like Joe, just a shame he’s not 8 years younger but at least we’re getting 4 years of sanity now.

I think he’s an old man from a different, more religious time. But so long as he doesn’t let it get in the way of being good for the country then he can crack on.

Trump was an atheist masquerading as religious and was a ****. So the religion of a leader is immaterial apart from when they use it to justify illegal wars (Bush and Blair I’m looking at you).

 

[Shirley]

I think he’s an old man from a different, more religious time. But so long as he doesn’t let it get in the way of being good for the country then he can crack on.

Trump was an atheist masquerading as religious and was a ****. So the religion of a leader is immaterial apart from when they use it to justify illegal wars (Bush and Blair I’m looking at you).

Looking at the mess in Libya I’d include Cameron also.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

So where does America as leader of the free world sit with American citizens these days? Is it expected or is there preference for ‘America first’. I ask because my own view is that we need you at the forefront of global challenges like climate change. it will be fascinating seeing Bidens foreign policy unfold.

I can’t say I really know. I feel comfortable our standing in the world will be diminished if we do not try and punish those guilty of sedition. Of course, wasn’t our standing damaged by not whacking Bin Laden for so long? Wasn’t it damaged by making up WMD shit so one Bush could finish what the other didn’t? How about Vietnam? I think our standing as a moral force has been eroding for a long, long while. But our standing as the foremost progenitors of democracy (if you think we are) really takes a hit if a true overthrow/coup isn’t dealt with soup to nuts, or if the “fraudulent election” lie goes unpunished.

On an odd note, my son is redecorating his room and piled his old Tintin comics in front of his door. I was paging through my old favo(u)rite — King Ottokar’s Sceptre (about a plot to overthrow a king) — and realized it wasn’t horribly far-off from what nearly happened here (albeit our coup was planned by fucking impotent idiots).

I don’t think Biden is focused FP wise quite yet — too many issues in the US to take care of first. He may not get to super-comprehensive FP. I don’t expect him to run in 24 even if he’s very popular.

I don’t look at climate change as a foreign policy issue but your post made me realize I probably should. I am all for a much more unified and comprehensive effort there.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

I think he’s an old man from a different, more religious time. But so long as he doesn’t let it get in the way of being good for the country then he can crack on.

Trump was an atheist masquerading as religious and was a ****. So the religion of a leader is immaterial apart from when they use it to justify illegal wars (Bush and Blair I’m looking at you).

Worth more than an just an ordinary tick

 

[Vic]

I can’t say I really know. I feel comfortable our standing in the world will be diminished if we do not try and punish those guilty of sedition. Of course, wasn’t our standing damaged by not whacking Bin Laden for so long? Wasn’t it damaged by making up WMD shit so one Bush could finish what the other didn’t? How about Vietnam? I think our standing as a moral force has been eroding for a long, long while. But our standing as the foremost progenitors of democracy (if you think we are) really takes a hit if a true overthrow/coup isn’t dealt with soup to nuts, or if the “fraudulent election” lie goes unpunished.

On an odd note, my son is redecorating his room and piled his old Tintin comics in front of his door. I was paging through my old favo(u)rite — King Ottokar’s Sceptre (about a plot to overthrow a king) — and realized it wasn’t horribly far-off from what nearly happened here (albeit our coup was planned by fucking impotent idiots).

I don’t think Biden is focused FP wise quite yet — too many issues in the US to take care of first. He may not get to super-comprehensive FP. I don’t expect him to run in 24 even if he’s very popular.

I don’t look at climate change as a foreign policy issue but your post made me realize I probably should. I am all for a much more unified and comprehensive effort there.

I'd have thought renewing nuclear arms treaties was a focussed start. And funding WHO. And I think Biden can multi task by tasking the people he's appointed to the cabinet. Just takes an afternoon, when his predecessor would be playing golf.

 

[SWP's back]

This is what happens when wankers politicise a pandemic.

 

[lightning Rodri]

Well done if true !

 

[west didsblue]

This is what happens when wankers politicise a pandemic.

If the greens were changed to red it would look almost identical to an election results by county map. Absolutely no surprise there.

 

[Ban-jani]

Looking at the mess in Libya I’d include Cameron also.

Cameron’s foreign policy in Libya was down to his religion?