You highlighted a poll covering his approval rating amongst the electorate and commented on his capacity which was nothing to do with the poll. His mental capacity is a right wing talking point. Those are the facts.No. I actually wasn't talking about this. Even though West didsblue did his best to make it seems I was.
That said, I agree with the 'Right Wingers' that there is a clear difference between Biden of 10 years ago and him in is current state. To say you can't see a difference Is practically self deceit. And it has little to do with his stutter or speaking slowly. He clearly sometimes loses his train of thought in the middle of a thought..You can clearly see it. The way his handlers police his every interaction suggests they they see it too.
But you are right, only Non-Leftwing channels make an issue of pointing it out. Leftwing channels make excuses like the one you just made or just ignore it all together.
Yes I was talking about his Capacity and Competency as a President. But on reading this back again, it seems @west didsblue initial response might have been an attempt to imply I was a "right winger" talking about his mental competency. You know, the well known tactic of let's smear the poster and that way we can ignore the discussion.
Regardless, I took it at face value and responded to it as such. There are lots of videos on any and every station regarding his Afghan withdrawal cock-up, the border crisis, Inflation and gas prices etc.
But regardless of the issue, be it his Competence as President, his mental Competence or his approval ratings... There seems to be palpable lack of interest in any...
And it proves me right.Yikes!!! Only if we could go back and check....
Oh wait, yes we can!
It seems you made a dumb assumption and now you are trying your darndest to find a culprit.
What a joke!
Yikes! Yes a drop in approval ratings suggests voters confidence in his capacity as President is dropping.You highlighted a poll covering his approval rating amongst the electorate and commented on his capacity which was nothing to do with the poll. His mental capacity is a right wing talking point. Those are the facts.
Im sure you'd get applause from the gallery. Wouldn't change your idiotic misappropriation though.When Trump was President you often defended him and you supported his re-election. Whether that makes you a right winger, an idiot or both I really don’t know and don’t care.
As a joke? Certainly!And it proves me right.
Here's a reminder.Yikes! Yes a drop in approval ratings suggests voters confidence in his capacity as President is dropping.
You really has to have been trying to pretend to misunderstand that.
Im sure you'd get applause from the gallery. Wouldn't change your idiotic misappropriation though.
Maybe English isn't your first language or you're a bit thick but the word capacity used in that context means only one thing.It sounds like confidence in Joe's capacity has been declining...
Frankly, mancity1, I'm bewildered.These points just illustrate how democracy works.
It matters none that a certain percentage believe that Biden should not have won the last election or contend it was stolen , the election was held the people voted and Biden won the electoral vote.
Many Hilary fans including Hilary herself believed Trump stole the 2016 election.
Hope that you are not confused by that.
You can move onto you next contention once Trump is not around anymore and replaced by someone else you believe is Trump like.
High time you moved on and focussed more on inflation , the borders , energy supply , falling real wage growth , the Ukraine covid death toll etc far more important issues for mainstream USA than whether Trump will be jailed or is still " a threat" to democracy.
if anything you might like to confine your fixation on Trump to the Trump thread as Joe would prefer discussion on his latest outburst to the media on his own thread.
You shouldn't be Trump lost the election and I said if you read my posts I believe he is a sore loser and doesn't mind admitting it and letting others know.Frankly, mancity1, I'm bewildered.
My points meticulously detail the extent to which Trump is willing to do nearly anything at all to remain in power - pressure foreign governments to support fake stories about a potential opponent, including illegal withdrawal of funds; illegal pressuring of voting officials to "come up" with votes; massive frivolous lawsuits claiming election fraud; and so on and so on.
To which you reply, "These points just illustrate how democracy works."
Full stop! No! You are absolutely, 100% wrong!
This is not the way that Democracy works in the USA. It's unprecedented. No other President has so fragrantly abused the law and committed illegal acts designed to overturn the results of a free and fair election as has Trump.
If you care about Democracy and believe in popular vote to elect our officials - do me a favor - please! For God's Sake, leave election results alone - unless substantiated, provable fraud exists.
Trump is a populist and spouts lie after lie. Fox News and other outlets pick up on these lies and amplify them. As a result, most of the Republican voters in the USA have no clue whatsoever about what is fact versus what is simply Trumpian lies. It's gotten so bad that Republicans don't trust scientists, The FBI, voting results, and so on... - anything whatsoever in opposition to Republican talking points is dismissed - facts do not at all matter.
The above explains my "fixation" with Trump. I believe in Democracy. Trump is instead a force for populist fascism.
Trump is a populist politician able to narrowly skirt laws governing elections and legal political action due to his popularity among the Right for taking their side regardless of fact and willingness to lie in order to state what the Right wishes to hear even if counterfactual. Democracy is at risk because of Trump and similar Right-leaning actors because free and fair elections have been called into question. The false claims promulgated by the Right are repeated and amplified by Right leaning media that it's now common belief among Republicans that the free and fair 2020 elections - by far the most accurate in US history - are fraudulent.You shouldn't be Trump lost the election and I said if you read my posts I believe he is a sore loser and doesn't mind admitting it and letting others know.
What he did or didn't do had no impact on the result and just like he was voted in , in 2016 he was voted out in 2020.
Your fixation on Trump and his antics has little in fact nothing to do with the way the elections are held in the USA and the weight given to each state in its outcome.
Now the relative weight can be debated as to whether its fair or not but until a fairer allotment or decision making process is devised its the one that hold sway.
You are confusing the actual count with what occurred after the count.
BTW Biden won the popular vote as well and both you and I cannot change that either nor can Trump.
That's American democracy at work BMATP.
People no matter their political persuasion can believe what they want to believe and you are entitled to believe that democracy is under threat in the US.Trump is a populist politician able to narrowly skirt laws governing elections and legal political action due to his popularity among the Right for taking their side regardless of fact and willingness to lie in order to state what the Right wishes to hear even if counterfactual. Democracy is at risk because of Trump and similar Right-leaning actors because free and fair elections have been called into question. The false claims promulgated by the Right are repeated and amplified by Right leaning media that it's now common belief among Republicans that the free and fair 2020 elections - by far the most accurate in US history - are fraudulent.
And the above is a threat to Democracy in the USA - which is unpredicted.
And this is certainly not at all how American Democracy has worked in the past. Should any US President prior to Trump be caught live on tape stating for all to hear - uncontrovertibly - that, for instance, "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything" - then that person would lose an election by a landslide.
But politics have radically changed in America. On the Right - facts don't matter. Morals don't matter. What matters is only that you endorse Trump and fall in line with whatever he says - factual or otherwise.
Democracy is under threat in the USA - for the first time in history.
Don't know why anyone struggles to understand that. Regarding voter fraud, when he is on tape asking a Georgia official to "find" votes, that is not normal democracy. In 2024, if the Trumpers' plans come to fruition they will have officials in post in a number of states who actually will "find" the votes that Trump needs, however many he's lost by, and he will have people in the courts that will uphold those decisions.Trump is a populist politician able to narrowly skirt laws governing elections and legal political action due to his popularity among the Right for taking their side regardless of fact and willingness to lie in order to state what the Right wishes to hear even if counterfactual. Democracy is at risk because of Trump and similar Right-leaning actors because free and fair elections have been called into question. The false claims promulgated by the Right are repeated and amplified by Right leaning media that it's now common belief among Republicans that the free and fair 2020 elections - by far the most accurate in US history - are fraudulent.
And the above is a threat to Democracy in the USA - which is unpredicted.
And this is certainly not at all how American Democracy has worked in the past. Should any US President prior to Trump be caught live on tape stating for all to hear - uncontrovertibly - that, for instance, "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything" - then that person would lose an election by a landslide.
But politics have radically changed in America. On the Right - facts don't matter. Morals don't matter. What matters is only that you endorse Trump and fall in line with whatever he says - factual or otherwise.
Democracy is under threat in the USA - for the first time in history.