President Trump

The blue phantom said:
So basically you're saying the ones that didn't turn up to vote because of their stance on Bidens administration complicity in Genocide, Should of still voted for that party as Trump would of slaughtered more?

Thats some fuckin choice isn't it.
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It’s still a clear and obvious choice that the Palestinians, Lebanese, Iranians and the rest of the fucking world are now paying for whilst the dye their hair blue and purple and have deep discussions with their mates about socialism.

It’s call the real fucking world and the rest of us actually live in it as we understand there’s no democratic utopia where the party we elect alone with ALL of our views.

It’s some fucking choice between chemo and certain death isn’t it. But which do people choice 9 times out of 10.
 
SWP's back said:
They screwed themselves. And they screwed the Iranians. And the Lebanese. And the Palestinians. And the Ukrainians. Fucking stupid cunts.
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I'm not going to disagree and me and you went through this 18 months ago. It's an absolute shitshow from the Americans/Israelis from the day after the attack in Israel. Not getting any better.
 
The blue phantom said:
I'm not going to disagree and me and you went through this 18 months ago. It's an absolute shitshow from the Americans/Israelis from the day after the attack in Israel. Not getting any better.
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That AIPAC controls US politics will be the biggest historical talking point of the last 60 years in one hundred years time, assuming we, as a species, make it that long. The US political donation system is not fit for purpose and Israel run US politics.
 
The blue phantom said:
Lol. Someone saying the Democrats have lost the youth vote and cant stand Biden for his complicity in a Genocide is err, complicit in Trump being elected. The Democrats fucked it up in all those swing states when dead Palestinians were all over the news. You said they'd piss it not me. All they had to do was say no to the other Monster Bibi and Trump would be nowhere near the Whitehouse.
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They refuse to listen which is symptomatic of the problem. The Harris campaign knew full well the potential risks. Never mind pledging an arms embargo they refused to move an inch.

Some were arguing that even a token gesture like having a Palestinian American speak at the DNC might be enough to sway some minds. Not only did they refuse they laughed in peoples faces on the way out.

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So he's managed to get loads of people seeing the USA as an unreliable ally. Canada, the EU, the UK (but we'll still send the head of state), now Israel, the Gulf States, most of the rest of the world looking at the economic impact, and probably Putin himself.
 
People say trump is daft/thick, I dont. I say he's clever. Clever in a criminal con man way.
He's accepted a ceasefire deal which allows Iran to charge a toll on ships using the Strate of Hormuz.
America get 8% of their oil this way so it isn't going to hurt them. The rest of the world is fucked but he doesn't care, especially when he is stealing it from Venezuela.
A bbc report today stated Chevron are taking 250,000 barrels a day from Venezuela and shipping it to their refining centre in Mississipi. They will soon increase by 50% the amount they remove.

It looks like a plan is coming together and no doubt him and his mates are making millions.
 
Vic said:
So he's managed to get loads of people seeing the USA as an unreliable ally. Canada, the EU, the UK (but we'll still send the head of state), now Israel, the Gulf States, most of the rest of the world looking at the economic impact, and probably Putin himself.
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Actually, you could hope diplomatic messages yesterday included threats that if Iranian civilisation was ended so would be (a) the King's visit and (b) the participation of many nations in the World Cup. Maybe tokenistic but might play to Trump's tiny mind.
 
Blue Mist said:
People say trump is daft/thick, I dont. I say he's clever. Clever in a criminal con man way.
He's accepted a ceasefire deal which allows Iran to charge a toll on ships using the Strate of Hormuz.
America get 8% of their oil this way so it isn't going to hurt them. The rest of the world is fucked but he doesn't care, especially when he is stealing it from Venezuela.
A bbc report today stated Chevron are taking 250,000 barrels a day from Venezuela and shipping it to their refining centre in Mississipi. They will soon increase by 50% the amount they remove.

It looks like a plan is coming together and no doubt him and his mates are making millions.
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Are they paying Venezuela for it?
 
Can I recommend that you click on and read article on the link shown:
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Palestinian girl who lost arm in Israeli attack arrives in UK after US visa snub

Mariam is one of more than 11,000 patients who have been evacuated from Gaza since October 2023
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It's a story of a young Palestinian girl who among other injuries lost her arm when an Israeli missile tore through her home in Gaza last March. She was denied an entry visa into the US for treatment as all Palestinians are banned. Thankfully this country still has a moral conscious and she arrived here yesterday for treatment. She is just one of many.
I wonder how both Israel and the US justify this.
 
Vic said:
Are they paying Venezuela for it?
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The bbc article doesn't say but dont forget, Trump has always said it is American companies that owned the oil and it was stolen from them under nationalisation.
When they invaded and kidnapped the leader hexdaid it again, American companies were going back in to get their oil.

Oh and just another thing. A lot of the companies said oil was too cheap to make the cost of restarting oil extraction in Venezuela worthwhile. Well oil ain't cheap anymore.
 
The blue phantom said:
We just dont like land theiving Genocidal mass Murderers.
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Explosive language. When you frame that way you generate an extreme emotional response. That's not to say you are wrong to be upset, but who's Genocidal here is a point of contention. What I would say is that if you threaten a powerful country and declare your intentions to wipe a country off the map (as IRGC has repeatedly done towards the Jewish State) you don't get to call the "reaction" to that land thieving. As it's all part of a scheme to paint everything about Israel in a negative tone. Any reasonable mannered person can see how problematic this is.

Israel is going to continue to fight because they have enemies fighting them. I think we all wish they wouldn't have to fight anymore. Getting the region to a point where Israel doesn't have to fight presumably requires IRGC to be ended, to which this ceasefire effectively prolongs the agony and misery. IRGC are constantly liars and cannot be trusted with negotiations. They only capitulated here because what Trump was about to do was a red line to them and they had no other card to play. IRGC is stalling and deceiving. That's all they do, that's all they'll ever do. They need to be stopped. Trump is the man to stop them.
 
TheBeautifulGame said:
Explosive language. When you frame that way you generate an extreme emotional response. That's not to say you are wrong to be upset, but who's Genocidal here is a point of contention. What I would say is that if you threaten a powerful country and declare your intentions to wipe a country off the map (as IRGC has repeatedly done towards the Jewish State) you don't get to call the "reaction" to that land thieving. As it's all part of a scheme to paint everything about Israel in a negative tone. Any reasonable mannered person can see how problematic this is.

Israel is going to continue to fight because they have enemies fighting them. I think we all wish they wouldn't have to fight anymore. Getting the region to a point where Israel doesn't have to fight presumably requires IRGC to be ended, to which this ceasefire effectively prolongs the agony and misery. IRGC are constantly liars and cannot be trusted with negotiations. They only capitulated here because what Trump was about to do was a red line to them and they had no other card to play. IRGC is stalling and deceiving. That's all they do, that's all they'll ever do. They need to be stopped. Trump is the man to stop them.
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Towards the end of your post, you seem to believe Iran capitulated ?
5 weeks ago any ship could sail through the Hormuz Straight.
Now, with Trumps apparent blessing, certainly acceptance, they have to pay a toll to Iran.

Your view of capitulation is very different to mine.
You also kind of spoilt your post by saying trump is the man to stop them.
Really ! He was about to commit horrors that go way past murdering 165 school children (day 1 of his illegal war) and you think, even after 5 weeks of achieving the square root of fuck all, he is the man!

And they say the match day thread is weird
 
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