Priced out?

It's the staff that do the parking down near the COOP arena that annoy me. Literally do fuck all and there's loads of them. They must go to the local colleges, unis etc and request the most gormless individuals they have at their disposal. Hands in pockets, on phones and barely looking at the traffic coming in. Generally all chatting in groups of 6 or 8 (sometimes more) in areas they're not really required in instead of being spread out and like leave one on their own dealing with the coach parking.

Last time we went the coach driver wound his window down and had a go at one of them as he had to slam on the brakes as they hadn't stopped pedestrians crossing whilst our coach was moving forward. Last year we reversed into another coach as one half-heartedly watched us back up. There's seldom ever enough room for the coaches to turn without any issues and hold ups. Nobody has the brain power to ensure this is taken care of beforehand so the issue just resurfaces every game.
Ah, groups of employees standing round doing seemingly very little. Reminds me of our local leisure centre. Or Tescos.

Back to your post though, fully agreed, that crossing point is always fun and games.
 
City won’t do things to reduce matchday income but they can make targeted decisions that would help to sustain our support. For example, there’s often a few hundred single tickets left unsold that could be made available at cheap prices. Also, more, cheap junior tickets could be available at lower profile games. The cost impact would be negligible, especially if more families were visiting the Club shop.

The expanded North Stand will deliver a big increase in match day revenue, as long as ticket prices aren’t excessive.

I agree .
I don't know the answer but do families with kids get reduced season ticket prices ?
As I said at weekend it was great to see so many kids, but you can't expect the club to sell tickets at a fiver when people are willing to pay more.
I am happy to pay as I love it so much, And I do believe alot of people do want and will use the club as a day destination when the facilities are finished.
@mexico1970 and his mates don't want facilities or more seats, I cannot see that as progressive.
 
I agree .
I don't know the answer but do families with kids get reduced season ticket prices ?
As I said at weekend it was great to see so many kids, but you can't expect the club to sell tickets at a fiver when people are willing to pay more.
I am happy to pay as I love it so much, And I do believe alot of people do want and will use the club as a day destination when the facilities are finished.
@mexico1970 and his mates don't want facilities or more seats, I cannot see that as progressive.


I didn't say that what I said is that there is no use having better facilities if you can't afford to use the facilities.
 
I don't think that fans wanted more seats they can't afford or facilities they didn't ask for that they can't see because matchday tickets are excruciatingly expensive.

Nobody I know wanted that at all.
Unfortunately for us,the bean counters do and if you or I can't afford it they will find someone who can.
I'm am a foc currently sitting in the front rows of East Stand level 3, I pay £470 for a season ticket, ill health will see me off within the next 18 months, that seat will revert back to a match day ticket, earning the club approx £1600 per season .
You can see why they don't want legacy fans or season ticket holders.
The hope for the club is they maintain their current success because if they don't they have a major problem
 
That's certainly what they should be doing, if they're not already (and they wouldn't say much when the subject was brought up at City Matters).

However those touts are also committing a criminal offence by unauthorised reselling of football tickets. There are enough police around on match days so you also have to question why they're not acting. The club and GMP could easily arrange to swoop on some of these. Then publicise the fact they've done this and that a number of season tickets or memberships have been cancelled.

Mind you, they won't lift a finger to stop smoking inside the stadium, even when people are vaping in plain sight of stewards in their seats.
What busy **** would stop someone vaping in the open air?
 
Yes , the club have spent 350 million to increase income, but also provide an incredible stadium, wonderful destination facilities and a great team.
Reading this thread and others some want hundreds of millions spent on the stadium, and players but also cheap tickets, isn't going to happen.

There is a possible balance to be had.

The fans aren’t asking for reduced ticket prices. Nobody is.

How about a price freeze on season tickets and match day tickets for once? I stand corrected on this. 11 season ticket and match day ticket price rises in the last 12 seasons? Or is it 12 in the last 13?

How about affordable match day tickets for under 18’s? Have you seen the prices of match day tickets? Nobody, not nobody, even you, can justify those prices?

How about tickets being made available together so friends and families can sit together?

Once again, the 3rd round of the FA Cup showed how many 10’000’s young fans and their families we’ve got, who are desperate to watch City, but can’t afford to watch City play a PL match because they are priced out. And if they could afford the PL tickets, which I doubt, they can’t get seats together.

How about new normal season tickets being made available instead of only the flexi-gold season tickets?

How about the club engagaing with the fans openly and constructively instead of just with selected fans groups, under NDA’s conditions? The North stand being just 1 example of that.

How about not palming off tickets to ticket touting websites to make more match day revenue, especially via match day packages, when those tickets could be sold on the OS first?

The club can do all those things and more, and still make plenty of match day revenue, if they wanted to do that?

As for the North stand redevelopment, just like the Coop Live Arena development, both will pay for themselves eventually and return a profit. Neither will be a waste of money or a white elephant.

Let’s see what the North stand details are when the club makes them public. That will tell us everything about the club, and about the directors running the club, and what their aims and goals are for the North stand.
 
I agree .
I don't know the answer but do families with kids get reduced season ticket prices ?
As I said at weekend it was great to see so many kids, but you can't expect the club to sell tickets at a fiver when people are willing to pay more.
I am happy to pay as I love it so much, And I do believe alot of people do want and will use the club as a day destination when the facilities are finished.
@mexico1970 and his mates don't want facilities or more seats, I cannot see that as progressive.
I know one way City are making some tickets cheaper for families is by helping adult season card holders enrol their kids / nephews / nieces on flexi golds that provide cheap match day tickets for youngsters. There are also cheaper season kids for youngsters in the North / family stand and some other parts of the ground.

Like you say, City won’t sell high demand tickets for peanuts if they know there’s demand to pay a lot more for the tickets. That’s especially the case against the rags, dippers and Arsenal.

I too pay more than most, paying for a couple of season cards in 93:20. Occasionally, I take relatives to games and pay for the odd extra ticket. I’ve also bought tickets for Blues who had been scammed in recent weeks. I felt a sense of responsibility about how our owner was investing in our Club and improving our lives. When my money runs out I will listen to games on the radio or watch on TV.

That said, I feel City have been tone death to pricing some loyal fans out. There’s also been excessive ticket prices in relation to extra Champs League games, like Inter Milan at home. I also think City have been tardy in addressing season card hoarding that makes it more difficult for families to get tickets together. There’s also too many tickets that find their way to agencies.

I’ve introduced some measures like a below face value ticket exchange in the OSC Branch that I run. Fans can do certain things to help each other but the Club needs to be responsible on ticket pricing too.
 
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There is a possible balance to be had.

The fans aren’t asking for reduced ticket prices. Nobody is,

How about a price freeze on season tickets and match day tickets for once? I stand corrected on this. 11 season ticket and match day ticket price rises in the last 12 seasons? Or is it 12 in the last 13?

How about affordable match day tickets for under 18’s? Have you seen the prices of match day tickets? Nobody, not nobody, even you, can justify those prices?

How about tickets being made available together so friends and families can sit together?

Once again, the 3rd round of the FA Cup showed how many 10’000’s young fans and their families we’ve got, who are desperate to watch City, but can’t afford to watch City play a PL match because they are priced out. And if they could afford the PL tickets, which I doubt, they can’t get seats together.

How about new normal season tickets being made available instead of only the flexi-gold season tickets?

How about the club engagaing with the fans openly and constructively instead of just with selected fans groups, under NDA’s conditions? The North stand being just 1 example of that.

How about not palming off tickets to ticket touting websites to make more match day revenue, especially via match day packages, when those tickets could be sold on the OS first?

The club can do all those things and more, and still make plenty of match day revenue, if they wanted to do that?

As for the North stand redevelopment, just like the Coop Live Arena development, both will pay for themselves eventually and return a profit. Neither will be a waste of money or a white elephant.

Let’s see what the North stand details are when the club makes them public. That will tell us everything about the club, and about the directors running the club, and what their aims and goals are for the North stand.
There is a possible balance to be had.

The fans aren’t asking for reduced ticket prices. Nobody is,

How about a price freeze on season tickets and match day tickets for once? I stand corrected on this. 11 season ticket and match day ticket price rises in the last 12 seasons? Or is it 12 in the last 13?

How about affordable match day tickets for under 18’s? Have you seen the prices of match day tickets? Nobody, not nobody, even you, can justify those prices?

How about tickets being made available together so friends and families can sit together?

Once again, the 3rd round of the FA Cup showed how many 10’000’s young fans and their families we’ve got, who are desperate to watch City, but can’t afford to watch City play a PL match because they are priced out. And if they could afford the PL tickets, which I doubt, they can’t get seats together.

How about new normal season tickets being made available instead of only the flexi-gold season tickets?

How about the club engagaing with the fans openly and constructively instead of just with selected fans groups, under NDA’s conditions? The North stand being just 1 example of that.

How about not palming off tickets to ticket touting websites to make more match day revenue, especially via match day packages, when those tickets could be sold on the OS first?

The club can do all those things and more, and still make plenty of match day revenue, if they wanted to do that?

As for the North stand redevelopment, just like the Coop Live Arena development, both will pay for themselves eventually and return a profit. Neither will be a waste of money or a white elephant.

Let’s see what the North stand details are when the club makes them public. That will tell us everything about the club, and about the directors running the club, and what their aims and goals are for the North stand.

A passionate and erudite post.
The vast majority of which I agree with.
 
I know one way City are making some tickets cheaper for families is by helping adult season card holders enrol their kids / nephews / nieces on flexi golds that provide cheap match day tickets for youngsters. There are also cheaper season kids for youngsters in the North / family stand and some other parts of the ground.

Like you say, City won’t sell high demand tickets for peanuts if they know there’s demand to pay a lot more for the tickets. That’s especially the case against the rags, dippers and Arsenal.

I too pay more than most, paying for a couple of season cards in 93:20. Occasionally, I take relatives to games and pay for the odd extra ticket. I’ve also bought tickets for Blues who had been scammed in recent weeks. I felt a sense of responsibility about how our owner were investing in our Club and improving our lives. When my money runs out I will listen to games on the radio or watch on TV.

That said, I feel City have been tone death to pricing some loyal fans out. There’s also been excessive ticket prices in relation to extra Champs League games, like Inter Milan at home. I also think City have been tardy in addressing season card hoarding that makes it more difficult for families to get tickets together. There’s also too many tickets that find their way to agencies.

I’ve introduced some measures like a below face value ticket exchange in the OSC Branch that I run. Fans can do certain things to help each other but the Club needs to be responsible on ticket pricing too.

Agreed mate.
The club do some good, not often acknowledged, but could do more.
Some fans want it all , tickets at cost and the best players signed... and still fucking moan.
 
Agreed mate.
The club do some good, not often acknowledged, but could do more.
Some fans want it all , tickets at cost and the best players signed... and still fucking moan.


Again for the hard of fucking hearing.

There is no need to buy the best players and spruce the stadium up if certain fans can't afford to go, but if you're that much of a selfish bastard to not see that then shame on you.
 
Agreed mate.
The club do some good, not often acknowledged, but could do more.
Some fans want it all , tickets at cost and the best players signed... and still fucking moan.
I love watching KDB and Haaland. I love our fans and how we packed out the Etihad vs West Ham and Salford, when less loyal fan bases would have stayed at home after a run of defeats.

If the Club could just do a bit more to help, most fans would really appreciate it. You can’t please everyone of course.
 
A passionate and erudite post.
The vast majority of which I agree with.
Cheers Asa.

I wasn’t having a go at you mate.

We all know what’s going on.

I do try and play Devils Advocate as far as the club is concerned. I’m not blind or tone deaf to the investment in the team, the ground, the area, and the trophies that have been won since Sheikh Mansour bought City.

I appreciate the club, Khaldoon, Soriano, and the directors, etc, want to increase match day revenue, but the way they are going about it is alienating a large section of City’s fan base and driving them away.

There has to be a compromise somewhere in this constant drive to increase match day revenue at any expense, which normally means at the expense of the fans.
 
There is a possible balance to be had.

The fans aren’t asking for reduced ticket prices. Nobody is.

How about a price freeze on season tickets and match day tickets for once? I stand corrected on this. 11 season ticket and match day ticket price rises in the last 12 seasons? Or is it 12 in the last 13?

How about affordable match day tickets for under 18’s? Have you seen the prices of match day tickets? Nobody, not nobody, even you, can justify those prices?

How about tickets being made available together so friends and families can sit together?

Once again, the 3rd round of the FA Cup showed how many 10’000’s young fans and their families we’ve got, who are desperate to watch City, but can’t afford to watch City play a PL match because they are priced out. And if they could afford the PL tickets, which I doubt, they can’t get seats together.

How about new normal season tickets being made available instead of only the flexi-gold season tickets?

How about the club engagaing with the fans openly and constructively instead of just with selected fans groups, under NDA’s conditions? The North stand being just 1 example of that.

How about not palming off tickets to ticket touting websites to make more match day revenue, especially via match day packages, when those tickets could be sold on the OS first?

The club can do all those things and more, and still make plenty of match day revenue, if they wanted to do that?

As for the North stand redevelopment, just like the Coop Live Arena development, both will pay for themselves eventually and return a profit. Neither will be a waste of money or a white elephant.

Let’s see what the North stand details are when the club makes them public. That will tell us everything about the club, and about the directors running the club, and what their aims and goals are for the North stand.
The first sentence is spot on. All of your suggestions have some degree of merit and deserve discussion but I suspect like others-have said that the will and the investment of time required is something the club don’t want to do
 
The first sentence is spot on. All of your suggestions have some degree of merit and deserve discussion but I suspect like others-have said that the will and the investment of time required is something the club don’t want to do
There’s been some positive steps with City Matters involvement:
-South Stand L3 tickets returned by away teams are resold for £30.
- Ticket transfers from concession to adult are charged at the different between 1/19th of season card rather than match day ticket prices.
- The prices for the Salford game were good.

Now it’s time to build on this with some other improvements / sensible pricing.
 
The first sentence is spot on. All of your suggestions have some degree of merit and deserve discussion but I suspect like others-have said that the will and the investment of time required is something the club don’t want to do

Probabaly.

Saying that, the club have had years to implement some of those ideas and more for the new North stand. Those ideas and more can also be rolled out across the Etihad when 1000’s of fans relocate seats, and other City fans get their first Flexi-Gold season tickets. There will be 1000’s of available seats for the first time across the Etihad since the South stand expansion.
 
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Let’s be honest, following football has never been ‘cheap’ cheap. My parents were neither broke or all that tight but saw a season ticket as huge and glamorous extravagance in the 1980s, it was a status symbol then and for many it is still now as something you treat yourself to when you’re doing well. Probably why we’ve generally had 30k to 50k attendance in a conurbation with many times that number of fans. And obviously during our dog days if you didn’t get to the game there was no chance you would ever see it. The trouble these days is that that things are not only expensive but going up inexorably and regulated in a way that means, with so much more competition for kids’ attention, that the backbone of the matchgoing fanbase could age out and not be replaced.
 
Let’s be honest, following football has never been ‘cheap’ cheap. My parents were neither broke or all that tight but saw a season ticket as huge and glamorous extravagance in the 1980s, it was a status symbol then and for many it is still now as something you treat yourself to when you’re doing well. Probably why we’ve generally had 30k to 50k attendance in a conurbation with many times that number of fans. And obviously during our dog days if you didn’t get to the game there was no chance you would ever see it. The trouble these days is that that things are not only expensive but going up inexorably and regulated in a way that means, with so much more competition for kids’ attention, that the backbone of the matchgoing fanbase could age out and not be replaced.

Agree.

Salford City showed the kids are there. They just can’t get into a PL match. It’s such a shame City are away in the 4th round.
 
Should it feel hypocritical to moan about ticket prices if you want the club to spend on new players?

Tell me what to think.
 
Agreed mate.
The club do some good, not often acknowledged, but could do more.
Some fans want it all , tickets at cost and the best players signed... and still fucking moan.
Match day tickets for league games don't affect me as I'm a season ticket holder and an foc as well, but the price of individual match tickets are fucking scandalous.
Yeah I understand the club invest a lot of money on things such as infrastructure top class players the best manager etc but prices are still too high for the average bloke on an average wage to be able to take his kids to games.
How many of us foc's went to our first games with our dads because it was affordable and continued going because we were addicted to watching our club?
Nowadays if dad's can't afford to take their kids then obviously the kids won't get the bug like we did.
There needs to be a compromise on ticket prices otherwise we will lose a generation of fans.
Season ticket prices are very reasonable especially for the foc's and that's a bonus but match day tickets are too high and yes I know everything costs more nowadays but because everything else is more expensive it also means many people have less disposable income.
Hopefully the club will listen to the fan groups and make individual game tickets more affordable.
 

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