Should it feel hypocritical to moan about ticket prices if you want the club to spend on new players?
Tell me what to think.
Should it feel hypocritical to moan about ticket prices if you want the club to spend on new players?
Tell me what to think.
Trouble is it’s not just football, eveything costs an arm and a leg these days, concert tickets, days out with the kids, is t greed or do these prices need to be charged to cover costs, hell I don’t know but it seems there are the ultra rich, the rich and modestly rich, then there’s the rest of us. We are all struggling to live and then you want to take your kids somewhere nice and it’s probably a 1/4 of your monthly disposable income for a few hours. I’ll give you an example, pantomime at Xmas 3 tickets is £120, now you want a beer and a glass of wine that’s £20, kid wants a drink some popcorn that’s £15, get the tram into town that’s be £12-£15 or park up £10. Not even included having something to eat as well add another £50 upwards. So let’s say conservative £250 for a day, these events now become special occasions not regular things and that’s how it is with football now, it’s a treat a few times a year for many, trouble is those people are your core support locally,Cheers Asa.
I wasn’t having a go at you mate.
We all know what’s going on.
I do try and play Devils Advocate as far as the club is concerned. I’m not blind or tone deaf to the investment in the team, the ground, the area, and the trophies that have been won since Sheikh Mansour bought City.
I appreciate the club, Khaldoon, Soriano, and the directors, etc, want to increase match day revenue, but the way they are going about it is alienating a large section of City’s fan base and driving them away.
There has to be a compromise somewhere in this constant drive to increase match day revenue at any expense, which normally means at the expense of the fans.
It used to be about £30 as a kid in the early 80s I’m sure it was a £1 on the turnstile as kid , maybe I’m wrong.Let’s be honest, following football has never been ‘cheap’ cheap. My parents were neither broke or all that tight but saw a season ticket as huge and glamorous extravagance in the 1980s, it was a status symbol then and for many it is still now as something you treat yourself to when you’re doing well. Probably why we’ve generally had 30k to 50k attendance in a conurbation with many times that number of fans. And obviously during our dog days if you didn’t get to the game there was no chance you would ever see it. The trouble these days is that that things are not only expensive but going up inexorably and regulated in a way that means, with so much more competition for kids’ attention, that the backbone of the matchgoing fanbase could age out and not be replaced.
Trouble is it’s not just football, eveything costs an arm and a leg these days, concert tickets, days out with the kids, is t greed or do these prices need to be charged to cover costs, hell I don’t know but it seems there are the ultra rich, the rich and modestly rich, then there’s the rest of us. We are all struggling to live and then you want to take your kids somewhere nice and it’s probably a 1/4 of your monthly disposable income for a few hours. I’ll give you an example, pantomime at Xmas 3 tickets is £120, now you want a beer and a glass of wine that’s £20, kid wants a drink some popcorn that’s £15, get the tram into town that’s be £12-£15 or park up £10. Not even included having something to eat as well add another £50 upwards. So let’s say conservative £250 for a day, these events now become special occasions not regular things and that’s how it is with football now, it’s a treat a few times a year for many, trouble is those people are your core support locally,
As someone who runs a Branch with a coach to home games. We are having to nudge up coach fairs for everyone next season because the cost of the coach goes up every year and so does the number concessions. I’m guessing a factor in City’s ticket policy is the number of FOCs. I’m just stating the obvious and I support concession tickets.
I’m sure they will target the discount for OAP’s at some point. It’s inevitable. I reckon it’s Just a matter of when that, not if.Match day tickets for league games don't affect me as I'm a season ticket holder and an foc as well, but the price of individual match tickets are fucking scandalous.
Yeah I understand the club invest a lot of money on things such as infrastructure top class players the best manager etc but prices are still too high for the average bloke on an average wage to be able to take his kids to games.
How many of us foc's went to our first games with our dads because it was affordable and continued going because we were addicted to watching our club?
Nowadays if dad's can't afford to take their kids then obviously the kids won't get the bug like we did.
There needs to be a compromise on ticket prices otherwise we will lose a generation of fans.
Season ticket prices are very reasonable especially for the foc's and that's a bonus but match day tickets are too high and yes I know everything costs more nowadays but because everything else is more expensive it also means many people have less disposable income.
Hopefully the club will listen to the fan groups and make individual game tickets more affordable.
Unfortunately the £7 a pint bars are rammed too. People queue up to get in them! That’s why they get away with it. The demand is there.I agree.
Go into a Spoons and it’s rammed. Affordable food and beer. Go into a trendy bar where a pint is £7 and it’s dead.
As you say, taking the family out is now a luxury. It used to be a weekly occurrence.
You only have to remember the price of the Oasis tickets with added dynamic pricing, and hotels putting their room rates up to £100’s of pounds. Businesses are ripping people off left, right, and centre because they know the demand is still there and people will somehow try and find the money.
This is exactly the sort of thing the club simply do not understand.I have properly ranted this before lol.
But I can feel the City fire in me going out, something I thought would never happen. Manchester is my birthplace City are my club but I don't feel part of City anymore. Going to matches with my lad was a big part of my life. It's always been expensive because we live in SE Kent, but I always found the money.
Our greatest season was the 22/23 went to around 15 plus matches home & away. Hugging my lad so tight when Gundo got the 3rd against villa, the whole area around us in the SS3 going bonkers. I really felt part of that season, silly I know but we thought we played our part. Going home after every game with a horse throat ! The laughs in the car great times.
Now I feel this has gone and it's abit sad. I wanted to stop going when my body said enough is enough, on my terms. I never thought I would stop going because we can't sit together or even warrant paying 70quid per game. I could afford it but I won't pay it 70quid to watch 60 minutes of football at best with all the time wasting. The emotional feeling has gone
It's been great following City around England for the last 4 decades and the last decade and abit with my lad. Great father and son time.
We have won more than I could have dreamt of, wished my dad was still here to see it. I guess we all must stop going at sometime.
I feel sad at the way I have stopped going regularly, it's been great
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Apparently City are looking at employing Rachel Reeves to help in that respectI’m sure they will target the discount for OAP’s at some point. It’s inevitable. I reckon it’s Just a matter of when that, not if.
Dozens of my mates don’t.Going back to match day ticket prices. If I didn’t have season ticket I wouldn’t pay the adult match day ticket prices for a match ticket.
This is exactly the sort of thing the club simply do not understand.
Most of what comes out of the club is polished but it’s bland and cold. It lacks Mancunian and familial joviality, togetherness and it all has very little true football fan culture. And they’re making our stands and our fanbase, slowly but surely, increasing bland and cold.
They don’t listen to us, consider us and I’d go as far to say they don’t care about us. We are simply a number to them, something they can monetise, and if we don’t produce enough money for their balance sheets, targets and bonuses they try and discard of us and replace us.
Football is not just about the blokes on the grass, it’s arguably more about bringing family, friends and citizens together. It’s about us and them: Mancunians, sons/grandsons of Mancunians and those with great stories about why they’re Blues; and our rivalry with the visitors or who we’re visiting. We represent our city, fanbase and club; and they theirs.
It’s about the trips we’ve been on up and down the country together, the scraps we’ve got into a got out of, the songs, the pubs, the clubs, the music, the fashion, the women and, yes, the football but certainly not just the football even though all of it is part of football fan culture.
Our fanbase was special, and it should always have been held as being inviolable. Our fanbase was the most marketable thing about the club at the time of the takeover. We were commended by everyone everywhere about being part of our fanbase. You could go anywhere, and when you told them you were a City fan you’d get that respectful nod, wink and handshake for the way we backed our club when we were at our worst.
Now, we, the same people, are called plastics and shit fans. And that isn’t through anything we’ve done, that’s all down to the club.
And now it all just feels like we’re in the way of where the boardroom want to take our club. And it is our club, it’s not theirs. They are just temporary employees and shareholders. These people need to realise that they are not there to get what they can out of our club, to hit financial targets to have proper core Blues sat at home while any Tom Dick or Half’n’Half Harry are spending fortunes on tickets and merch; they are there to create a football club that enriches the history and culture of Manchester for its citizens to enjoy, be proud of and brings us all together.
This is exactly the sort of thing the club simply do not understand.
Most of what comes out of the club is polished but it’s bland and cold. It lacks Mancunian and familial joviality, togetherness and it all has very little true football fan culture. And they’re making our stands and our fanbase, slowly but surely, increasing bland and cold.
They don’t listen to us, consider us and I’d go as far to say they don’t care about us. We are simply a number to them, something they can monetise, and if we don’t produce enough money for their balance sheets, targets and bonuses they try and discard of us and replace us.
Football is not just about the blokes on the grass, it’s arguably more about bringing family, friends and citizens together. It’s about us and them: Mancunians, sons/grandsons of Mancunians and those with great stories about why they’re Blues; and our rivalry with the visitors or who we’re visiting. We represent our city, fanbase and club; and they theirs.
It’s about the trips we’ve been on up and down the country together, the scraps we’ve got into a got out of, the songs, the pubs, the clubs, the music, the fashion, the women and, yes, the football but certainly not just the football even though all of it is part of football fan culture.
Our fanbase was special, and it should always have been held as being inviolable. Our fanbase was the most marketable thing about the club at the time of the takeover. We were commended by everyone everywhere about being part of our fanbase. You could go anywhere, and when you told them you were a City fan you’d get that respectful nod, wink and handshake for the way we backed our club when we were at our worst.
Now, we, the same people, are called plastics and shit fans. And that isn’t through anything we’ve done, that’s all down to the club.
And now it all just feels like we’re in the way of where the boardroom want to take our club. And it is our club, it’s not theirs. They are just temporary employees and shareholders. These people need to realise that they are not there to get what they can out of our club, to hit financial targets to have proper core Blues sat at home while any Tom Dick or Half’n’Half Harry are spending fortunes on tickets and merch; they are there to create a football club that enriches the history and culture of Manchester for its citizens to enjoy, be proud of and brings us all together.
Why not though?Yes , the club have spent 350 million to increase income, but also provide an incredible stadium, wonderful destination facilities and a great team.
Reading this thread and others some want hundreds of millions spent on the stadium, and players but also cheap tickets, isn't going to happen.
Supply and demand look at holiday pricing in school holidays fucking scandalousOn a match day, City and the Rags, hotel rooms in the city centre double and triple in price. The same with concerts. The hotel chains don’t have to do it, but they do, because people will still pay the hotel room prices. It will be very interesting to see what City charge for the hotel rooms.
I agree with plenty of what you say. Regarding Bayern’s ticket prices, you could get lucky and regular season card holders might make their tickets available but I’ve had a quick look at ticket prices for Bayern Munich vs Dortmund and they are going for between 300 Euros and 1,200 Euros (through agents). I think the Germans treat the cheapest season card like gold dust.Why not though?
Bayern München have cheap tickets, and not just a few thousand, but thousands upon thousands of them (16,000 season tickets under €350, with most of them being €275… City barely have 1,200 cheap tickets). I always use that particular club as my example because they are a juggernaut of the game who smash their revenue records all the time, but they fucking look after their fans!
Their CEO (a dodgy City hating ****, but fucking bang on here!) once made the famous statement;
‘We could charge more than €204 for season tickets. Let's say we charged €400. We'd get €2m more in income, but what's €2m to us? In a transfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between €204 and €400 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. That's the difference between us and England’.
A Mancunian Father and son could look out for cheap flight offers and attend a Bayern game for cheaper than the upcoming City v Chelsea game in their own city.
Even Liverpool have all Premier League Under 18s tickets at Anfield in all stands apart from the new Anfield Road Second Tier, at £9 (yes NINE British pounds). And they give local fans with an ‘L’ post code a window of a week before tickets go on sale to other fans to get tickets.
City v Chelsea next week: adult prices £72-90; children’s prices £48-62. With nothing for locals to get in there before anyone else. And good luck getting two seats together.
And it’s alright for fans like you and I who can afford it, who have tickets next to friends and family (I don’t as most of my family and mates have stopped going, but I do get on with those around me). And I’m one of those who’s alright with going to the pub on my own if none of my mates can afford to go to a game. So I also go to the games and have a piss up anyway.A melancholy story.
I have been going for a mere 60 years, my brother 68 years. We are both very lucky, we still love it. Home and away, win or or lose , we have a booze.
I would stop going definitely if I felt like that.
Through the club itself, Bayern have a much wider price range for games than City. While our next home game is £72-90, very little range and nothing in the cheap price bracket; Bayern’s matchday tickets start at €19 and go right up to something like €150. But the price range is there.I agree with plenty of what you say. Regarding Bayern’s ticket prices, you could get lucky and regular season card holders might make their tickets available but I’ve had a quick look at ticket prices for Bayern Munich vs Dortmund and they are going for between 300 Euros and 1,200 Euros (through agents). I think the Germans treat the cheapest season card like gold dust.
£2m to us is the fine for getting on the pitch late!Why not though?
Bayern München have cheap tickets, and not just a few thousand, but thousands upon thousands of them (16,000 season tickets under €350, with most of them being €275… City barely have 1,200 cheap tickets). I always use that particular club as my example because they are a juggernaut of the game who smash their revenue records all the time, but they fucking look after their fans!
Their CEO (a dodgy City hating ****, but fucking bang on here!) once made the famous statement;
‘We could charge more than €204 for season tickets. Let's say we charged €400. We'd get €2m more in income, but what's €2m to us? In a transfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between €204 and €400 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. That's the difference between us and England’.
A Mancunian Father and son could look out for cheap flight offers and attend a Bayern game for cheaper than the upcoming City v Chelsea game in their own city.
Even Liverpool have all Premier League Under 18s tickets at Anfield in all stands apart from the new Anfield Road Second Tier, at £9 (yes NINE British pounds). And they give local fans with an ‘L’ post code a window of a week before tickets go on sale to other fans to get tickets.
City v Chelsea next week: adult prices £72-90; children’s prices £48-62. With nothing for locals to get in there before anyone else. And good luck getting two seats together.