Priti Vacant has a plan, a deal with migrants plan.

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

I agree, although specifically talking inflation, the pandemic spending is mostly to blame.

B@llocks .... we hit 3.5% inflation just after Brexit .... no other country did.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

We are in the mess we are with inflation and the cost of living crisis because of the pandemic and the government printing money during the pandemic to support people.

There are other factors involved of course but this is the main contributing factor.

We are paying for the furlough scheme and the cost of tackling the virus.

That’s not austerity, austerity doesn’t cause inflation, printing money does.

Government printed money to bail out the bankers ... called Quantitive Easing as well but you didn't see inflation as a result (just a slight devaluation of the £) ...why should we see inflation as a result of one but not the other?

 

[Octavian]

If they're here illegally .... they're not costing you a penny cos you cant access welfare or the Health service without a National Insurance number.

The health service won’t turn them away if it’s serious, they are taking accommodation away from people, a space in public transport etc.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I am not sure about the other two but the pension claim isn’t correct.

It’s really not clear who has the better deal but we’re certainly not at the bottom, or near the bottom, the four countries specified are the usual big Western European nations of Germany, France, Spain and us:

“So in this respect, UK pensioners can expect slightly more money from the government than their European counterparts, although comparing gross figures doesn’t take into account different average incomes and cost of living in these four countries.”

Do pensioners in the rest of the EU get more cash than the elderly in the UK? - Full Fact

Pensions are difficult to compare internationally, and there are several different ways to do it.

fullfact.org

Looks like a lot of whataboutery to me, quoting figures that are nearly 10 years old.

 

[Octavian]

B@llocks .... we hit 3.5% inflation just after Brexit .... no other country did.

When was that precisely?

 

[Octavian]

Looks like a lot of whataboutery to me, quoting figures that are nearly 10 years old.

4 years old with very little changes since.

 

[Octavian]

Government printed money to bail out the bankers ... called Quantitive Easing as well but you didn't see inflation as a result (just a slight devaluation of the £) ...why should we see inflation as a result of one but not the other?

Quantitive Easing is the gradual introduction of money into the system. What happened during the pandemic was far greater than that.

 

[Octavian]

I am not sure about the other two but the pension claim isn’t correct.

It’s really not clear who has the better deal but we’re certainly not at the bottom, or near the bottom, the four countries specified are the usual big Western European nations of Germany, France, Spain and us:

“So in this respect, UK pensioners can expect slightly more money from the government than their European counterparts, although comparing gross figures doesn’t take into account different average incomes and cost of living in these four countries.”

Do pensioners in the rest of the EU get more cash than the elderly in the UK? - Full Fact

Pensions are difficult to compare internationally, and there are several different ways to do it.

fullfact.org

@Ifwecouldjust....... here, try full fact rather than some shoddy graph you’ve found on Facebook

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

4 years old with very little changes since.

There’s been plenty of change since, including the cost of living standards.

Anyway, looking at one aspect of our social and welfare systems is just taking debate down a blind alley.

Unsure of you think our current systems are fit for purpose or if you think they have been underfunded. Either way, there’s a hell of a lot of people who are now waking up to see how manifestly unstable we are.

 

[stonerblue]

I called out his opinion on immigration as I believe the topic is being used to divert attention away from other things. Next time I’ll PM you for permission.

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