Pro Hughes

[phil58]

Theres nothing so stable as a losing side eh? Stability with MH may actually lead us to relegation, because I tell you if we end up in a relegation scrap we'll lose it. The fact that I'm even here now considering relegation as a distinct possibility tells me all I need to know about Hughes.

Well if you're that worried about us being relegated then get down to the bookies as one bookie is still offering odds of 50-1 that we'll go down. You'll make a fucking fortune mate. After all, you seem convinced we're all but relegated anyway.

And what's this bollocks about losing a relegation scrap? How the hell would you know whether we will lose a relegation scrap or not? Have you got a frigging crystal ball or something?

Things will take a turn for the better over the coming weeks IMO but it'll be no thanks to doom-mongers like you - there are too many shithouses and bottle merchants amongst our supporters. It's as though they've already chucked the towel in and that excuse of an atmosphere on Saturday was proof in itself. The performance on the pitch was hardly anything to write home about but off it, the fans were as big if not a bigger disgrace. It really was like a fucking morgue.

Well said. Supporters expect instant success but it takes time and in the position we're now in with all the money it will come! Out supporters should be the happiest in the land instead of constantly moaning! Give the players the support when they play and you might find they'll rise to the occasion!

 

[PistonBlue]

Theres nothing so stable as a losing side eh? Stability with MH may actually lead us to relegation, because I tell you if we end up in a relegation scrap we'll lose it. The fact that I'm even here now considering relegation as a distinct possibility tells me all I need to know about Hughes.

Well if you're that worried about us being relegated then get down to the bookies as one bookie is still offering odds of 50-1 that we'll go down. You'll make a fucking fortune mate. After all, you seem convinced we're all but relegated anyway.

And what's this bollocks about losing a relegation scrap? How the hell would you know whether we will lose a relegation scrap or not? Have you got a frigging crystal ball or something?

Things will take a turn for the better over the coming weeks IMO but it'll be no thanks to doom-mongers like you - there are too many shithouses and bottle merchants amongst our supporters. It's as though they've already chucked the towel in and that excuse of an atmosphere on Saturday was proof in itself. The performance on the pitch was hardly anything to write home about but off it, the fans were as big if not a bigger disgrace. It really was like a fucking morgue.

Calm down you salivating cock.

We are outside the relegation places by a fucking thread. Our current form is relegation form, and our team is fucking spineless, so yeah relegation is in the back of my mind. Or are we 'too good'? And I don't need a crystal ball to tell you how I know we'd lose a relegation scrap mate. It's because we have no fucking backbone. Thats why we lost at Wigan, it's why we lost at Bolton and it why we lost on saturday. It's also why the midgets from Denmark very nearly knocked us out of Europe as well.

And I'm personally responsible for the lack of atmosphere am I?

 

[RobsondeSouza]

How do you work out he inherited a squad of poor players?


He has a squad of players including 4 of he's signings SWP,Kompany,Zabeleta and TBH as well as £53m brought in by the owners on Robinho and Jo. He has managed to turn a squad of players that at this point last season was 16 points better off in the league and in 5th place in the league. Granted the players turned off after xmas but they knew Sven was going no matter what he did at the end of the season.

One thing we can say from last season under Sven to this season under Hughes, is last season relegation never looked possible where as this season it is looking likley.

As per my above post, I said he inherited the squad AND the poor players with it. Players who are competiton for places but who honestly would be concerned with Vassell or Ball taking your place!

The players are at fault here, the players who have come in (Hughes's signings) have improved us in areas which were needed, but the squad from last year, who turned off after xmas and have taken this mentality into this season and it has affected the squad as a whole!

January should see competition for places come into the club and as I said before, should give last season's squad a bit of a kick up the arse!

And what player in there right mind would come to a club hovering or in the bottom 3, obvious dressing room battles and unrest, lack of fight, spirit and passion on and off the field, Lack of management tactics and growing dissapointment in the stands. You along with the other dreamers on here think MH will wave his magic wand in JANUARY AND EVERYTHING WHATS HAPPENED UPTO NOW WILL BECOME A BAD DREAM. YOUR DREAMING PAL. WERE IN DEEP SHIT WAKE UP..

 

[Jnr Kisby]

We are outside the relegation places by a fucking thread. Our current form is relegation form, and our team is fucking spineless, so yeah relegation is in the back of my mind. Or are we 'too good'? And I don't need a crystal ball to tell you how I know we'd lose a relegation scrap mate. It's because we have no fucking backbone.

This.

If we are in the bottom 3 by January we are in a relegation scrap, everyone knows it. Its a fact of the premierleague, whoever is in the bottom 3 after christmas faces an uphill battle to survive.

 

[meldrew]

As per my above post, I said he inherited the squad AND the poor players with it. Players who are competiton for places but who honestly would be concerned with Vassell or Ball taking your place!

The players are at fault here, the players who have come in (Hughes's signings) have improved us in areas which were needed, but the squad from last year, who turned off after xmas and have taken this mentality into this season and it has affected the squad as a whole!

January should see competition for places come into the club and as I said before, should give last season's squad a bit of a kick up the arse!

And what player in there right mind would come to a club hovering or in the bottom 3, obvious dressing room battles and unrest, lack of fight, spirit and passion on and off the field, Lack of management tactics and growing dissapointment in the stands. You along with the other dreamers on here think MH will wave his magic wand in JANUARY AND EVERYTHING WHATS HAPPENED UPTO NOW WILL BECOME A BAD DREAM. YOUR DREAMING PAL. WERE IN DEEP SHIT WAKE UP..

Not denying the fact that we are in shit at the moment, all I am trying to get at is we need to get behind them! Manager and players need us to boost there confidence and tbh stories of unrest and dressing room battles, are quite simply utter bollocks!

It's not dressing room unrest, it's Hughes making sure players know there place and ARE PROFFESIONAL'S! Not fancy dan's or fucking pampered players, some of these player's don't like it and I for one am glad Hughes is trying to change the mentality of some of these player's who have been in a cushy position for far too long!

 

[coleridge]

Mmm... This all reminds me of fellow citizens fighting amongst themselves outside the old Derby ground [when you had to walk via Rolls Royce] when we had lost 6-0. On Saturday, harsh words were also said in the East Stand. And now I see that those of us who sat there in disbelief of the awfulness of the performance are apparently to blame for the 'Richest Club in the World' being in superb relegation form.

The reality is that the players are clearly unmotivated, confused and/or believe they are on the way out. None of this is helped by former players telling anyone who will listen that £200 million has already been spent for January with more to follow in the summer. In addition, I can only repeat that MH was not appointed by the owners and may not be directly involved with all the transfer dealings [certainly not in the case of Robinho]. Therefore, if you were the billionaire owners, wouldn't you be sounding out 'alternative management structures'? I strongly doubt that 'drifting' is a policy that ADUG adheres to. More interestingly would be that, if the majority of fans turned against MH [if they haven't already], then would that influence or make the decision for the owners? Either way, the next few weeks will decide many matters in the future of the club. It may be painful but it's never dull...

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Scream if you want to go faster.

 

[M18CTID]

Well if you're that worried about us being relegated then get down to the bookies as one bookie is still offering odds of 50-1 that we'll go down. You'll make a fucking fortune mate. After all, you seem convinced we're all but relegated anyway.

And what's this bollocks about losing a relegation scrap? How the hell would you know whether we will lose a relegation scrap or not? Have you got a frigging crystal ball or something?

Things will take a turn for the better over the coming weeks IMO but it'll be no thanks to doom-mongers like you - there are too many shithouses and bottle merchants amongst our supporters. It's as though they've already chucked the towel in and that excuse of an atmosphere on Saturday was proof in itself. The performance on the pitch was hardly anything to write home about but off it, the fans were as big if not a bigger disgrace. It really was like a fucking morgue.

Calm down you salivating cock.

We are outside the relegation places by a fucking thread. Our current form is relegation form, and our team is fucking spineless, so yeah relegation is in the back of my mind. Or are we 'too good'? And I don't need a crystal ball to tell you how I know we'd lose a relegation scrap mate. It's because we have no fucking backbone. Thats why we lost at Wigan, it's why we lost at Bolton and it why we lost on saturday. It's also why the midgets from Denmark very nearly knocked us out of Europe as well.

And I'm personally responsible for the lack of atmosphere am I?

If anyone's a salivating cock, it's you lol;) Admittedly, I did go off on one a bit when normally I tend to take a calmer, more rational view of things. The way I see it, you can look at any performances in isolation and say that's why we'd lose a relegation scrap but by the same token perhaps you can explain how we comfortably dealt with the likes of Sunderland and Stoke - the kind of teams that by your reckoning would be the type to turn us over no problem. It's not primarily the lack of fight that's doing for us at the moment (although I admit that's had a little influence on some of our results) - it's the lack of balance and the stupid cock-ups that have cost us more points than us having no so-called backbone although it's fair to say we need at least one more holding midfielder to help shore things up.

Apologies on the atmosphere comment - emotions are running high on all fronts at the moment and I'm every bit as frustrated as everyone else, but I can't help thinking that some of the vitriol directed towards our manager is as much to do with the club he used to play for as it is to do with our form on the pitch. Some of the abuse directed towards him on here is little short of a disgrace and the kind of language that I'd only ever reserve for my worst enemy, not our manager.

 

[meldrew]

If anyone's a salivating cock, it's you lol;) Admittedly, I did go off on one a bit when normally I tend to take a calmer, more rational view of things. The way I see it, you can look at any performances in isolation and say that's why we'd lose a relegation scrap but by the same token perhaps you can explain how we comfortably dealt with the likes of Sunderland and Stoke - the kind of teams that by your reckoning would be the type to turn us over no problem. It's not primarily the lack of fight that's doing for us at the moment (although I admit that's had a little influence on some of our results) - it's the lack of balance and the stupid cock-ups that have cost us more points than us having no so-called backbone although it's fair to say we need at least one more holding midfielder to help shore things up.

Apologies on the atmosphere comment - emotions are running high on all fronts at the moment and I'm every bit as frustrated as everyone else, but I can't help thinking that some of the vitriol directed towards our manager is as much to do with the club he used to play for as it is to do with our form on the pitch. Some of the abuse directed towards him on here is little short of a disgrace and the kind of language that I'd only ever reserve for my worst enemy, not our manager.[/quote]

Agree, Some of the comments and abuse directed at Hughes is quite frankly disgraceful, had to be very calm with one or two 'fan's around the north stand on Saturday, 'that m bastard' seems to be used quite more often than not recently and in my opinion is uncalled for!

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Would that be "success" as in P8 W4 D4 L0 against us in the league under Hughes not forgetting the FA Cup humiliation at their hands?

I'd say results against us in the past few years are not a great indicator of success.

Or "success" as in finishing 6th and 7th in two of the last three seasons. And even when they finished 10th it was 10 points above us?

Yes, we should be aspiring to do better than that.

I think the results against us in the past few years show a consistent indicator of a team with similar resources doing much better than us. And I agree that currently we should ultimately be looking for 6th as an absolute minimum. But that could take three years to achieve and if we can't do it in that timescale, with the resources apparently at our disposal, then Hughes clearly isn't the man. But the fact that he hasn't achieved in in less than 6 months isn't going to get me jumping up and down.