Prorogation - Judgment Day:10.30am Tuesday 24/9/19

Rascal said:
I have tried warning people about fascism, but a number of people are not bothered as long as Brexit happens. I thought taking back control was a noble cause, not a fascist clarion call. Johnsons language is Trumpian, it is disgusting and I always thought that we as a nation were better than that.
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I do think Johson is acting dangerous towards democracy, but i don't think facist is the most apt word to use. I think you compared a certain group to Brownshirts for his cause yesterday but i'm not sure if you understood the role of brownshirts in Hitlers rise to power then as i seem to do. The thing with brownshirts is that they formed a quasi army of several hundred thousands in a time where Germany was limited to a 100.000 man army. The significance of the brown shirts were rather specific to the enviroment then, because it's perhaps not hard to see how a nation can loose control and power when a faction within can mobilise a fighting force several times the size of that of the goverment, lest to speak that even significant part of the army and police supported the facists. The vacuum in Germany allowed the Brownshirts even to police large parts of the country. Afcourse when it came to ellections the brownshirts would use various tactics to make Hitler win among those intimidation of the ellectorate and the death threats to MP's in the UK (especially when also having cases of political assasination) can be then seen as somewhat similar to that, certaintly concerning for democracy. What you don't have is an effectivly mobilised army of right wingers forcing people to vote for their cause, no'r any chance for them to beat the country's armed forces in a bid for power or any territory defacto controlled by them by sheer vacuum left by a neutured goverment.

Bojo does seem to use various machinations to seize more power for himself, machinations that look similar to various ones used at times in the past. Maybe here and there they seem to be taking hints from the facist trickbook but imho he's taking even more from Caesar.

I don't think it's all that usefull to use the word "facist", it's a laden term and i think it makes people on the right feel attacked by hyperbole aswell. Nevertheless what Bojo is doing is deeply concerning imho.
 
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worsleyweb said:
You have been radicalised as rascal would say. Check out her history. It’s ok to call him a fucking fascist but he can’t say surrender. Oh the irony! Check out her twitter history. Potty mouth and full of hate I tell you!!
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You think I’ve been radicalised because I want the Prime Minister to calm his language that’s resulting in death threats for opposition MP’s?

Johnson is a fascist, look at his behaviour.
 
Ban-jani said:
You think I’ve been radicalised because I want the Prime Minister to calm his language that’s resulting in death threats for opposition MP’s?

Johnson is a fascist, look at his behaviour.
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Glorious.

Calm his language to fascist in 6 seconds lol
 
Ban-jani said:
You think I’ve been radicalised because I want the Prime Minister to calm his language that’s resulting in death threats for opposition MP’s?

Johnson is a fascist, look at his behaviour.
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Yeah well Jess Phillips and other MPs should remember their own language. She said she would stab Corbyn not in the back but in the front if he jeopardised the chances of a future labour govt.

Nice lady.
 
Ban-jani said:
When I’ve finished my breakfast I’ll explain why he is one.
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Save your breath.

He isn't one and no one in Parliament is.

You might not like them or their policies or their stance on brexit but a fascist it does not make.
 
blueinsa said:
Glorious.

Calm his language to fascist in 6 seconds lol
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Hitler in the 1930’s:

- Tried to suspend Parliament illegally
-Manipulated the German Head of State whilst he was in a weak and awkward position
-Used his friends in the press to attack the opposition, labelling them “enemies of the people”
-Pitted Parliament vs the people as the battle
-Undermined and attacked the courts, trying to bypass them
-Talked about the enemy within who want to surrender Germany
-Attacked minorities

Johnson today:

- Tried to suspend Parliament illegally
-Manipulated the UK Head of State whilst she was in a weak and awkward position
-Used his friends in the press to attack the opposition, labelling them “enemies of the people”
-Pitted Parliament vs the people as the battle
-Undermined and attacked the courts, trying to bypass them
-Talked about his opponents “surrendering” and “embarrassing the UK”
-Attacked minorities in the press, ridiculing one of the most vulnerable groups - Muslim women


Granted there aren’t education (death) camps and brownshirts beating up Labour members but his tactics are currently Fascist behaviour.

He isn’t a conservative and that’s why some Tory MP’s are horrified by what he’s doing and saying.
 
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