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Prospects of winning our Champions League Group?
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stablemcfc
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It's a strange one, wouldn't surprise me if we won all 3 of the matches having watched us now play the 3 teams. However also wouldn't surprise me if we didn't get out the group having watched us struggle with familiar things in Europe.
Big one is the Sevilla one for me, if we get a point there then that sets us up perfectly. A loss & we could end up in Europa, a win & we should top the group.
Big one is the Sevilla one for me, if we get a point there then that sets us up perfectly. A loss & we could end up in Europa, a win & we should top the group.
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So their plan was to hope Buffon pulled off some worldy saves and then wait for Mangala to slip and the ball to take a fluke bounce off Kolarov's shoulder?Yes, In the sense that they were in control for most of the game and executed their plan perfectly. We may have had more possession but we never looked like winning even when we were ahead.
We should hire their manager, I reckon we could manage a point every two games with planning like that.
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I wonder how much the change in seedings will impact this. Usually all the top clubs would be in Pot 1 but now there are some with high coefficients like Real Madrid in Pot 2 and PSV & Zenit in Pot 1. So we could come second in the group and get Zenit or Wolfsburg. Or we could top the group and potentially get Real Madrid.I don't know what's happened with the competition rules (there were changes in the initial seeding) but in previous seasons nearly all, if not all the Group winners went on to the Quarter Finals as they got easier draws in the last 16. So if we can top the group, a path might open up that could see us get to the Quarter Finals, and then we can be lucky in the draw.
It was literally the exact opposite of what you've just said.Yes, In the sense that they were in control for most of the game and executed their plan perfectly. We may have had more possession but we never looked like winning even when we were ahead.
We were in control right up until their first goal, then our heads went a bit and they used their experience to capitalise. Not once up until their equaliser did I feel any unease in that game.
There's no reason we can't win the group, but if MP plays 4-4-2 again, or if he doesn't make the tough decision to not play Yaya in a midfield 2, then we can forget about it.
If we play 2 of Fernandinho, Fernando and Delph in central midfield and relieve Yaya from any defensive duties, then we can beat anyone in our group.
That said, with our previous CL form I'd take a Sevilla draw and a BM win to get 2nd place.
If we play 2 of Fernandinho, Fernando and Delph in central midfield and relieve Yaya from any defensive duties, then we can beat anyone in our group.
That said, with our previous CL form I'd take a Sevilla draw and a BM win to get 2nd place.
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If sterling had his shooting boots on their plan would have been fucking shite mate. We had the clear chances.Yes, In the sense that they were in control for most of the game and executed their plan perfectly. We may have had more possession but we never looked like winning even when we were ahead.
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I wonder how much the change in seedings will impact this. Usually all the top clubs would be in Pot 1 but now there are some with high coefficients like Real Madrid in Pot 2 and PSV & Zenit in Pot 1. So we could come second in the group and get Zenit or Wolfsburg. Or we could top the group and potentially get Real Madrid.
Just because the change in the way the pots are determined now at the beginning of the competition, I don’t think that has any effect on how they’re done when it gets to the draw for the group stages, does it?
In other words – City finish 1st in their group and Madrid top theirs, you still can’t play each other in Round 2.
Prestwich_Blue
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No the knock out draw is still done the same way but I meant the way the teams are now allocated to pots could mean getting two teams that would normally be in Pot 1 in the same group. Real Madrid, by coming second in La Liga and going into Pot 2, were then drawn with a top non-Spanish team (PSG), meaning that a team that would normally have been in Pot 1 and expected to win the group, might well be in Pot 2 and come second (or the Pot 1 team will).Just because the change in the way the pots are determined now at the beginning of the competition, I don’t think that has any effect on how they’re done when it gets to the draw for the group stages, does it?
In other words – City finish 1st in their group and Madrid top theirs, you still can’t play each other in Round 2.
Likewise PSV were a Pot 1 team solely by virtue of winning the Eredivisie but are currently bottom of their group (and wouldn't you just know whose group that is).
Latics Fan SJK
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No the knock out draw is still done the same way but I meant the way the teams are now allocated to pots could mean getting two teams that would normally be in Pot 1 in the same group. Real Madrid, by coming second in La Liga and going into Pot 2, were then drawn with a top non-Spanish team (PSG), meaning that a team that would normally have been in Pot 1 and expected to win the group, might well be in Pot 2 and come second (or the Pot 1 team will).
Likewise PSV were a Pot 1 team solely by virtue of winning the Eredivisie but are currently bottom of their group (and wouldn't you just know whose group that is).
Yeah, I follow.
I do prefer it this way though if I'm honest. Champions of the respective leagues should get preference when it comes to seedings.
In response to your final comment - it's funny that they're also the only team to beat that team you are referring to.
edit: This got me thinking about what we could have in store for the round of 32...
Group Winners
Real Madrid
Man United (Wolfsburg)
At. Madrid
Juventus (Man City)
Barcelona
Bayern Munich
Porto (Chelsea)
Zenit
Group Runners Up
PSG
Wolfsburg (Man United)
Benfica
Man City (Juventus)
Leverkusen
Olympiakos
Chelsea (Porto)
Valencia
That's how I see it ending up (brackets refer to ones that could go either way).
Looking at that, by finishing 2nd City would be looking at facing Real Madrid, At Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich or Zenit. Wolfsburg & Porto a possibility if they trump United/Chelsea respectively.
Topping the group would mean one of PSG, Benfica, Leverkusen, Olympiakos or Valencia. Porto a possibility if Chelsea pip them.
I'd certainly be focusing on winning the group now.
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