Protesters

quiet_riot said:
They argue against it due to the long, sustained campaign of anti climate change propaganda peddled by people who profit massively from fossil fuels. Exxon acknowledged climate change and the fact that their products were a contributor...then planned, funded and actioned a campaign to make people believe it was all possiblies and maybes. Obviously it has worked to some degree, as people still refute it.

More here: https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warmi...fossil-fuel-industry-climate-change-deception
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Genuinely frightening.
 
Chippy_boy said:
But more broadly about the propaganda having got to me, take a look in the mirror, mate. For most of the media output on climate change is not science, it is indeed propaganda from politicians and journalists who know very very little on the subject. How open is your mind to the fact that this "catastrophe" may very well end up not being a catastophe at all?
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Very. I spent most of my life so far thinking that it wasn't an issue. That it would be ok, that I would be long gone before it became an issue, and that I'm was a selfish enough **** to ask "why should I change my life?"

Then I realised, I'm not the most important thing on this planet. I'm not having kids or anything, so in theory, I could easily not give a shit and be alright, Jack, but the rest of my race is so self absorbed, so in denial, so fucking scummy.

But it's all ok, I mean as you keep repeating (ad nauseum)...they're all journalists who know very little...right?
 
Ban-jani said:
The more we put Co2 into the atmosphere, the worse this will get.

Now we, in the UK, are currently 1/3 renewable energy and 2/3 fossil fuels.

Whilst we have been one of the more progressive states, we are still contributing to this ever accelerating crisis.

Many of those in London protesting aren’t my usual cup of tea. Some do appear to be the scruffy hippy types you’ve alluded to.

However, they are undoubtedly in the right with what they’re doing and I thank them for doing this on my behalf.

Time is running out and we need to act now.

The only thing we can do in the UK is to work towards being 100% green, leaf by example and show other states it can be done and how.

We have no other option here but to face mass extinction.
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Sorry Ban-jani but whereas your post started well, it descending into complete nonsense. This must act now or face mass extinction nonsense. It's the very sensationalist hyperbole which gets my back up. Man is not becoming extinct over this, no way, no how, not ever. Some animal species, yes, inevitably, as they always have and always will. You cannot preserve the earth in aspic, expecting it to never change.
 
quiet_riot said:
But it's all ok, I mean as you keep repeating (ad nauseum)...they're all journalists who know very little...right?
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If I keep repeating something ad nauseum, one might half expect you to get it right then. I have not said "But it's all OK" have I? Yet another example of people sensationalising and misquoting in order to try to prove a point.

And I said politicians and journalists, by the way. And I stand by it, most of them have no clue.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Sorry Ban-jani but whereas your post started well, it descending into complete nonsense. This must act now or face mass extinction nonsense. It's the very sensationalist hyperbole which gets my back up. Man is not becoming extinct over this, no way, no how, not ever. Some animal species, yes, inevitably, as they always have and always will. You cannot preserve the earth in aspic, expecting it to never change.
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I said “mass extinction” - I didn’t say every single person in the world will die, however there is a chance of that and I think it’s eventually going to happen if we don’t change things.

It’s not just a few animal species, it’s the majority of them.

In fact, even without the point of no return the climate science community are warning about, in the next decade, we are causing mass extinction already in the animal kingdom.
 
Chippy_boy said:
You are an offensive twat aren't you. Who on earth do you think you are to act judge and jury on why some people who don't happen to believe that climate change is the impending end of the world, all have their snouts in the trough? Well I for one, have no snout in any trough, and strongly resent being called ****, ****.
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Your reaction says it all fella, hit a nerve did I?

Anyhow I hope the house prIce is stable, your shares are doing well and all those who don’t want to work themselves to death are taking your advice and finding another job.

I am completely convinced that you do not believe the vast majority of scientists and have gone with the tiny minority because that’s what you actually believe.

By the way I didn’t call you a **** you just presumed I was talking about you, wonder why you felt that way?

Now if I mention self interested dishonest cunts and like Mr Benn’s shopkeeper you appear that isn’t my fault.
 
I wonder how those that defend the illegal actions of the protesters would feel if they missed the match yesterday due to the protests . Or their company they worked for couldn't pay them due to the protests?? Might be a few change of hearts I suspect?
 
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