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[colourmeblue]

did you have a seizure at the end of that sentance

No mate...its called taking the piss...sorry if you didnt recognise it. And btw...did you have a spelling bypass at the end of yours?

Yeah my spelling and grammar is not very good
Well yeah I know you're taking the piss its just you are really shit at it
"r nuttin durrr" the fuck is that shit


Oh yeah if you going to pick up on spelling its didn't

If you want to switch from being a knuckle dragger to being a pedant I would suggest the main forum isnt the place....sorry...isn't

 

[SWP's back]

Not to mention the fact they came over here in 1066 and conquered this island. With most of the landowners and a lot of the population still living in this country being descendants of the Normans....oh, hang on!

We were also invaded and conquered about four times before that too.

Wrong. They were Norman (Norsemen, men of the North, Scandinavian descendants and they had a valid claim on the throne).

The French had nothing to do with it.

Glad to see though that you think what happened 1,000 years ago to be as relevant as the last century even though your info was wrong.

You fucking the love the French you.<br /><br />-- Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:53 pm --<br /><br />

evolve?....lmao

You don't believe in evolution either?

I bet Darwin would hate his detractors to see this thread

Darwin still has detractors? Well that's news to me.

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

Not to mention the fact they came over here in 1066 and conquered this island. With most of the landowners and a lot of the population still living in this country being descendants of the Normans....oh, hang on!

We were also invaded and conquered about four times before that too.

Wrong. They were Norman (Norsemen, men of the North, Scandinavian descendants and they had a valid claim on the throne).

The French had nothing to do with it.

Glad to see though that you think what happened 1,000 years ago to be as relevant as the last century even though your info was wrong.

You fucking the love the French you.

-- Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:53 pm --

You don't believe in evolution either?

I bet Darwin would hate his detractors to see this thread

Darwin still has detractors? Well that's news to me.

Hang on a minute? I thought William II of Normandy lead an army of Normans AND French?

 

[SWP's back]

Hang on a minute? I thought William II of Normandy lead an army of Normans AND French?

Nope, unless you have a compelling source:

In 911, the French Carolingian ruler Charles the Simple allowed a group of Vikings under their leader Rollo to settle in Normandy as part of the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. In exchange for the land, the Norsemen under Rollo were expected to provide protection along the coast against future Viking invaders.[1] Their settlement proved successful, and the Vikings in the region became known as the "Northmen" from which "Normandy" and "Normans" are derived.[2] The Normans quickly adapted to the indigenous culture, renouncing paganism and converting to Christianity.[3] They adopted the langue d'oïl of their new home and added features from their own Norse language, transforming it into the Norman language. They further blended into the culture by intermarrying with the local population.[4] They also used the territory granted them as a base to extend the frontiers of the duchy to the west, annexing territory including the Bessin, the Cotentin Peninsula and Avranches.[5]

In 1002 King Æthelred II of England married Emma, the sister of Richard II, Duke of Normandy.[6] Their son Edward the Confessor, who spent many years in exile in Normandy, succeeded to the English throne in 1042.[7] This led to the establishment of a powerful Norman interest in English politics, as Edward drew heavily on his former hosts for support, bringing in Norman courtiers, soldiers, and clerics and appointing them to positions of power, particularly in the Church. Childless and embroiled in conflict with the formidable Godwin, Earl of Wessex and his sons, Edward may also have encouraged Duke William of Normandy's ambitions for the English throne.[8]

When King Edward died at the beginning of 1066, the lack of a clear heir led to a disputed succession in which several contenders laid claim to the throne of England.[9] Edward's immediate successor was the Earl of Wessex, Harold Godwinson, the richest and most powerful of the English aristocrats, who was elected king by the Witenagemot of England and crowned by the Archbishop of York, Ealdred, although Norman propaganda claimed the ceremony was performed by Stigand, the uncanonically elected Archbishop of Canterbury.

There were some from Brittany and Flanders but they were separate dukedoms to what was then France (which was to the south).

The French pushed upwards in the centuries after.

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

Hang on a minute? I thought William II of Normandy lead an army of Normans AND French?

Nope, unless you have a compelling source:

In 911, the French Carolingian ruler Charles the Simple allowed a group of Vikings under their leader Rollo to settle in Normandy as part of the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. In exchange for the land, the Norsemen under Rollo were expected to provide protection along the coast against future Viking invaders.[1] Their settlement proved successful, and the Vikings in the region became known as the "Northmen" from which "Normandy" and "Normans" are derived.[2] The Normans quickly adapted to the indigenous culture, renouncing paganism and converting to Christianity.[3] They adopted the langue d'oïl of their new home and added features from their own Norse language, transforming it into the Norman language. They further blended into the culture by intermarrying with the local population.[4] They also used the territory granted them as a base to extend the frontiers of the duchy to the west, annexing territory including the Bessin, the Cotentin Peninsula and Avranches.[5]

In 1002 King Æthelred II of England married Emma, the sister of Richard II, Duke of Normandy.[6] Their son Edward the Confessor, who spent many years in exile in Normandy, succeeded to the English throne in 1042.[7] This led to the establishment of a powerful Norman interest in English politics, as Edward drew heavily on his former hosts for support, bringing in Norman courtiers, soldiers, and clerics and appointing them to positions of power, particularly in the Church. Childless and embroiled in conflict with the formidable Godwin, Earl of Wessex and his sons, Edward may also have encouraged Duke William of Normandy's ambitions for the English throne.[8]

When King Edward died at the beginning of 1066, the lack of a clear heir led to a disputed succession in which several contenders laid claim to the throne of England.[9] Edward's immediate successor was the Earl of Wessex, Harold Godwinson, the richest and most powerful of the English aristocrats, who was elected king by the Witenagemot of England and crowned by the Archbishop of York, Ealdred, although Norman propaganda claimed the ceremony was performed by Stigand, the uncanonically elected Archbishop of Canterbury.

There were some from Brittany and Flanders but they were separate dukedoms to what was then France (which was to the south).

The French pushed upwards in the centuries after.

The Normans were formed by mingling a group of Viking settlers with the people of Brittany & Flanders in North West France.

Whilst being an 'indigenous' population of France and being granted land to settle by the King of France, I'd say it could be argued that there was minor involvement from the French in the Norman invasion.

However, as for Dan's comments, I think he may have mistaken this battle, for the one, like you mentioned above, two centuries later where the French moved north.

Well that's my take on it anyway!

 

[scotty123]

Hang on a minute? I thought William II of Normandy lead an army of Normans AND French?

Nope, unless you have a compelling source:

In 911, the French Carolingian ruler Charles the Simple allowed a group of Vikings under their leader Rollo to settle in Normandy as part of the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. In exchange for the land, the Norsemen under Rollo were expected to provide protection along the coast against future Viking invaders.[1] Their settlement proved successful, and the Vikings in the region became known as the "Northmen" from which "Normandy" and "Normans" are derived.[2] The Normans quickly adapted to the indigenous culture, renouncing paganism and converting to Christianity.[3] They adopted the langue d'oïl of their new home and added features from their own Norse language, transforming it into the Norman language. They further blended into the culture by intermarrying with the local population.[4] They also used the territory granted them as a base to extend the frontiers of the duchy to the west, annexing territory including the Bessin, the Cotentin Peninsula and Avranches.[5]

In 1002 King Æthelred II of England married Emma, the sister of Richard II, Duke of Normandy.[6] Their son Edward the Confessor, who spent many years in exile in Normandy, succeeded to the English throne in 1042.[7] This led to the establishment of a powerful Norman interest in English politics, as Edward drew heavily on his former hosts for support, bringing in Norman courtiers, soldiers, and clerics and appointing them to positions of power, particularly in the Church. Childless and embroiled in conflict with the formidable Godwin, Earl of Wessex and his sons, Edward may also have encouraged Duke William of Normandy's ambitions for the English throne.[8]

When King Edward died at the beginning of 1066, the lack of a clear heir led to a disputed succession in which several contenders laid claim to the throne of England.[9] Edward's immediate successor was the Earl of Wessex, Harold Godwinson, the richest and most powerful of the English aristocrats, who was elected king by the Witenagemot of England and crowned by the Archbishop of York, Ealdred, although Norman propaganda claimed the ceremony was performed by Stigand, the uncanonically elected Archbishop of Canterbury.

There were some from Brittany and Flanders but they were separate dukedoms to what was then France (which was to the south).

The French pushed upwards in the centuries after.

The Normans were formed by mingling a group of Viking settlers with the people of Brittany & Flanders in North West France.

Whilst being an 'indigenous' population of France and being granted land to settle by the King of France, I'd say it could be argued that there was minor involvement from the French in the Norman invasion.

However, as for Dan's comments, I think he may have mistaken this battle, for the one, like you mentioned above, two centuries later where the French moved north.

Well that's my take on it anyway!

Correct. The land mass we know as France today did not come into bejng until well into the 13th century even then it was feudal and divided.
The English had more claims to lands in France than a lot of the French kings hence the black knight kicking French arse at Crecy and Poitiers and then Henry the Vth at Agincourt givtng them an even greater seeing to. Well thats what i was taught at school anyway

 

[sweynforkbeard]

If they earn money on merchandise sales and from winning a few trophies they can say they are earning money and "working towards" complying with the rules of FFP and that initial outlays were just to set the up to succeed.

You do not have to break even or make profits to comply with FFPR.

-- Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:20 am --


You do know they've had one of the finest empires there has ever been?!

A strange description for a chain of 200 snail farms in Africa, six Polynesian atolls, half an active volcano in the Caribbean, a cheese shop in Montreal that refuses to serve anyone speaking English and Devil's Island.

And Canada and Anguilla and Antigua and Barbuda and Dominica and Dominican Republic and Grenada and Montserrat and Saint Barthélemy and Nevis and Saint Christophe (St Kitts) and Saint Croix and Saint-Domingue (Haiti) and Sainte-Lucia (St Lucia) and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines and Saint Eustatius and Tobago and Brazil and The Falklands and French Guiana and
Albreda (in Gambia) and Algeria and Cameroon (91% of Cameroon) and Chad and Dahomey (Benin) and French Congo (Republic of Congo) and French Guinea (Guinea) and French Upper Volta (Republic of Upper Volta, Burkina Faso) and French Somaliland (Djibouti) and French Sudan (Mali) and French Togoland (Togo) and Gabon and Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire) and Mauritania and Morocco (89% of Morocco) and Niger and Oubangui-Chari (Central African Republic) and Senegal and Tunisia and Zanzibar (Tanzania) and Comoros and Ile de France (Mauritius) and Madagascar and Seychelles andHatay (Sanjak of Alexandretta, now called Hatay province) and Lebanon and Syria and Yemen and Cambodia and Laos and Vietnam and Annam and Cochin China and Tongking

Much as I stated then. Don't forget over 7/8 of the globe was coloured pink at the zenith of our colonial magnanimity. Ours truly was the Empire on which the sun never set - and this was the only reason it declined, what with everyone blinking in the blaze of the 24 hour dazzling glare and with the shortage of sunglass sellers. Don't forget there was no Specsavers in the Victorian era and a world shortage of parasols as the selfish but fragrant virginal womanhood of Henley on Thames shaded themselves on the lawns of croquet courts as their menfolk crawled through the unrelenting sands of the Arrakan, the Kalahari and Brisbane croaking, 'Put the kettle on, Carruthers, it's time for tiffin.'

 

[i kne albert davy]

Never studied history then ? I always feel sorry for people like you.

I feel more sorry for people such as yourself who take Simpsons lines far too seriously. Here is the etymology and some later use of the saying.

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese-eating_surrender_monkeys" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese-eat ... er_monkeys</a>

And if anyone wants a small titter, read this, abridged history of the French at war:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html</a>

Including such gems as:

- Thirty Years War
- France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

- French Revolution
- Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

- Italian Wars
- Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.

Not to mention the fact they came over here in 1066 and conquered this island. With most of the landowners and a lot of the population still living in this country being descendants of the Normans....oh, hang on!

We were also invaded and conquered about four times before that too.

The clues in the name Normans as opposed to frenchmen i suppose.

 

[colourmeblue]

Not to mention the fact they came over here in 1066 and conquered this island. With most of the landowners and a lot of the population still living in this country being descendants of the Normans....oh, hang on!

We were also invaded and conquered about four times before that too.

Wrong. They were Norman (Norsemen, men of the North, Scandinavian descendants and they had a valid claim on the throne).

The French had nothing to do with it.

Glad to see though that you think what happened 1,000 years ago to be as relevant as the last century even though your info was wrong.

You fucking the love the French you.

-- Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:53 pm --

You don't believe in evolution either?

I bet Darwin would hate his detractors to see this thread

Darwin still has detractors? Well that's news to me.

yep...there are still a few ignorami around...astonishing I know /:<br /><br />-- Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:26 pm --<br /><br />

A strange description for a chain of 200 snail farms in Africa, six Polynesian atolls, half an active volcano in the Caribbean, a cheese shop in Montreal that refuses to serve anyone speaking English and Devil's Island.

And Canada and Anguilla and Antigua and Barbuda and Dominica and Dominican Republic and Grenada and Montserrat and Saint Barthélemy and Nevis and Saint Christophe (St Kitts) and Saint Croix and Saint-Domingue (Haiti) and Sainte-Lucia (St Lucia) and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines and Saint Eustatius and Tobago and Brazil and The Falklands and French Guiana and
Albreda (in Gambia) and Algeria and Cameroon (91% of Cameroon) and Chad and Dahomey (Benin) and French Congo (Republic of Congo) and French Guinea (Guinea) and French Upper Volta (Republic of Upper Volta, Burkina Faso) and French Somaliland (Djibouti) and French Sudan (Mali) and French Togoland (Togo) and Gabon and Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire) and Mauritania and Morocco (89% of Morocco) and Niger and Oubangui-Chari (Central African Republic) and Senegal and Tunisia and Zanzibar (Tanzania) and Comoros and Ile de France (Mauritius) and Madagascar and Seychelles andHatay (Sanjak of Alexandretta, now called Hatay province) and Lebanon and Syria and Yemen and Cambodia and Laos and Vietnam and Annam and Cochin China and Tongking

Much as I stated then. Don't forget over 7/8 of the globe was coloured pink at the zenith of our colonial magnanimity. Ours truly was the Empire on which the sun never set - and this was the only reason it declined, what with everyone blinking in the blaze of the 24 hour dazzling glare and with the shortage of sunglass sellers. Don't forget there was no Specsavers in the Victorian era and a world shortage of parasols as the selfish but fragrant virginal womanhood of Henley on Thames shaded themselves on the lawns of croquet courts as their menfolk crawled through the unrelenting sands of the Arrakan, the Kalahari and Brisbane croaking, 'Put the kettle on, Carruthers, it's time for tiffin.'

cool story bro

 

[Shaelumstash]

Where's shaelumstash gone? Disappeared back up his own rectum perhaps? Come back on, special one, and sprinkle more pearls of wisdom to us poor, Burnley-bound Omega jockeys.

Sorry, I was out in West Didsbury with my militant Vegan friends on our bikes with daisy chains round our neck singing Matthews Southern Comfort songs. We all agreed it was a bit harsh to judge 65 million people on the military activities 70 years ago of the country they were born in. We agreed to judge people individually from now on. Crazy hippy nonsense, I know.

Your only as good as your last war
They were terrible

The form guide says we'd have a great chance against China then, after our last noble victory in the Opium Wars, another proud moment in British history. At least we got to colour in Hong Kong pink on the map, that's the only part of the story that matters isn't it?