PSG set to fail FFP again?

[SWP's back]

I stand corrected, just read Swiss Ramble and other articles talking about the controversial Etihad deal.

Does it mean that, with Football Leaks allegation, they could also try to tie those contracts as related parties on top of the untruthfull reporting ?
Not that i think they will succeed but do you think they could try that angle to try and shackle City ?

1) it’s not remotely controversial. As I say, whilst it possibly was overvalue when signed, it’s most certainly not now and Etihad will very much feel they have had their money’s worth.

2) no they can’t tie anything together. City have a contract to receive money from Etihad. They received that money. Etihad can’t be forced to open their books to UEFA or anyone else. It’s not City’s responsibility to check where and which part of Etihad it came from. So long as it came from Etihad’s account and not our owner’s then it’s not an issue.

3) even IF (and it’s a huge an unlikely IF) they decided Etihad was related (which it isn’t and they can’t), it would be impossible to negotiate the annual sponsorship down for ‘fair value’ as it’s less than United receive per year for shirt alone and City’s matches have a similar global audience.

 

[SWP's back]

You’re still at it ffs. What is “controversial” about the Etihad deal? It’s just been pointed out to you that we would probably get more money for a shirt, stadium and campus deal than Etihad currently pay.

I genuinely don’t believe Parisian is trying to wum. He will have a very detailed knowledge of PSG and Qatar as we do with City and ADUG/Etihad. I think he can be forgiven for repeating some media narrative (as plenty do on here about PSG). At least he’s asking questions and finding out the real information for himself.

 

[Parisian]

I genuinely don’t believe Parisian is trying to wum. He will have a very detailed knowledge of PSG and Qatar as we do with City and ADUG/Etihad. I think he can be forgiven for repeating some media narrative (as plenty do on here about PSG). At least he’s asking questions and finding out the real information for himself.

Yup. You understand me.
The same way some City fans can misunderstand some things about PSG, i was sure Etihad was considered a related party while it turned out it isn't.

It is nice to understand all those subtilities to handle the way UEFA try to attack both clubs with different ways.

In case of City, i think they can't stand too much ground just because PL is a behemot. City can find easily sponsors worldwide because not only they are in BPL but they are leading in those few years WITH STYLE.

Btw, can you confirm it is 21 M for the naming at City stadium ? Since PSG is trying to find partners in that department, i wonder if PSG could expect similar numbers.

As a whole, i don't really understand the hostility some seem to have over PSG or their fans here. PSG and City don't have bad blood (except for the owners antics) and we are targeted by the same people.
I'm not a City fan since i'm fan of only my club but i do like some City players like Aguero (from the time of Atletico), Bernardo especially.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I stand corrected, just read Swiss Ramble and other articles talking about the controversial Etihad deal.

Does it mean that, with Football Leaks allegation, they could also try to tie those contracts as related parties on top of the untruthfull reporting ?
Not that i think they will succeed but do you think they could try that angle to try and shackle City ?

No because...
The information was obtained illegally so is unlikely to be of value without corroborating evidence, AND, more crucially, "His Highness" isn't Sheikh Mansour it is the Emir who is guaranteeing payments from Etihad.

 

[Stoned Rose]

PSG's sponsorships are laughable considering the state of Ligue 1 and also PSG's own performances in the CL. Signing Neymar is a huge marketing tool but kids in Brazil wont be wearing PSG shirts any time soon nor anywhere else in the world.

I hope UEFA come down hard on them and the PSG wrap them up in all sorts of legal battles.

Weirdly I saw 3 kids in the park today all wearing PSG shirts with Neymar on the back. He defo knows how to sell a shirt the kid.

 

[born2bblu]

Yup. You understand me.
The same way some City fans can misunderstand some things about PSG, i was sure Etihad was considered a related party while it turned out it isn't.

It is nice to understand all those subtilities to handle the way UEFA try to attack both clubs with different ways.

In case of City, i think they can't stand too much ground just because PL is a behemot. City can find easily sponsors worldwide because not only they are in BPL but they are leading in those few years WITH STYLE.

Btw, can you confirm it is 21 M for the naming at City stadium ? Since PSG is trying to find partners in that department, i wonder if PSG could expect similar numbers.

I take it you are on PSG Board? :)

 

[Stoned Rose]

My view on this will never change.

If the owner of a business wants to spend lots of his money that’s his call.

If another business wants to sponsor his business or one of his players, also their call.

This was never, ever, ever an issue until us and PSG came along with ‘new money’.

It’s beyond bent. I sincerely hope PSG tell them to fuck off and say see you in court you set of ****s.

 

[M12Blue]

My view on this will never change.

If the owner of a business wants to spend lots of his money that’s his call.

If another business wants to sponsor his business or one of his players, also their call.

This was never, ever, ever an issue until us and PSG came along with ‘new money’.

It’s beyond bent. I sincerely hope PSG tell them to fuck off and say see you in court you set of ****s.

The same new money that’s likely kept the wider game afloat. Christ we probably pain for half of Arsenal’s stadium

 

[Stoned Rose]

Which UEFA will struggle to do. Even in the extremely unlikely event they were to get access to Etihad’s books, they’d find that any funding supplied in respect of their sponsorship of City didn’t come from Sheikh Mansour. That’s why City’s set-up is so much cleverer than PSG’s. UEFA could tie themselves in knots for years and still find they were coming up against a brick wall.

Isn’t it ridiculous that we have to be ‘clever’ and they could tie themselves in knots over all this bollocks?

Just let football clubs get on with being football clubs ffs.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Isn’t it ridiculous that we have to be ‘clever’ and they could tie themselves in knots over all this bollocks?

Just let football clubs get on with being football clubs ffs.

But who would the mardarse clubs complain to then ?

 

[Stoned Rose]

Also,what about the clubs who gladly accept these big sums being paid to them in transfer fees?

Barca re Neymar.
Liverpool re Coutinho.
Juve re Pogba.
Etc etc etc.

Aren’t they just as complicit in the ‘inflation of the market’ and clubs like PSG being ‘investigated’?

It’s ok to ‘receive’ big fees but not to ‘pay’ big fees?

The nonsense levels are that high that the whole concept actually starts to laugh at itself.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Yup. You understand me.
The same way some City fans can misunderstand some things about PSG, i was sure Etihad was considered a related party while it turned out it isn't.

It is nice to understand all those subtilities to handle the way UEFA try to attack both clubs with different ways.

In case of City, i think they can't stand too much ground just because PL is a behemot. City can find easily sponsors worldwide because not only they are in BPL but they are leading in those few years WITH STYLE.

Btw, can you confirm it is 21 M for the naming at City stadium ? Since PSG is trying to find partners in that department, i wonder if PSG could expect similar numbers.

As a whole, i don't really understand the hostility some seem to have over PSG or their fans here. PSG and City don't have bad blood (except for the owners antics) and we are targeted by the same people.
I'm not a City fan since i'm fan of only my club but i do like some City players like Aguero (from the time of Atletico), Bernardo especially.

I think a lot of us admire what we see as PSG’s ‘stick two fingers up to UEFA’ approach. And of course you’re one of our favourite clubs just at the moment for one very good reason....

 

[SWP's back]

Yup. You understand me.
The same way some City fans can misunderstand some things about PSG, i was sure Etihad was considered a related party while it turned out it isn't.

It is nice to understand all those subtilities to handle the way UEFA try to attack both clubs with different ways.

In case of City, i think they can't stand too much ground just because PL is a behemot. City can find easily sponsors worldwide because not only they are in BPL but they are leading in those few years WITH STYLE.

Btw, can you confirm it is 21 M for the naming at City stadium ? Since PSG is trying to find partners in that department, i wonder if PSG could expect similar numbers.

As a whole, i don't really understand the hostility some seem to have over PSG or their fans here. PSG and City don't have bad blood (except for the owners antics) and we are targeted by the same people.
I'm not a City fan since i'm fan of only my club but i do like some City players like Aguero (from the time of Atletico), Bernardo especially.

I and most City fans I know like PSG as you’re another club the old cartel wishes it could have strangled at (re)birth.

 

[Parisian]

I think a lot of us admire what we see as PSG’s ‘stick two fingers up to UEFA’ approach. And of course you’re one of our favourite clubs just at the moment for one very good reason....

Hahaha, i can see why !!!
Oh, i read your messages guys and i'm glad to see your opinions.

Yeah, the same old cartel that broke spending records after spending records, that accumulate billions of debt (wink wink spanish clubs) thinks money is now ruining the games when they aren't the richest anymore...

Our game has just ended, easy win. We played rather well but Mbappé missed a ton of chances. He scored 2 but could have 4 or 5.
I'm kinda getting scared for United return now : everything is going to well at PSG and every time it happens, there is always something bad incoming. Haha !

 

[Gabriel]

Hahaha, i can see why !!!
Oh, i read your messages guys and i'm glad to see your opinions.

Yeah, the same old cartel that broke spending records after spending records, that accumulate billions of debt (wink wink spanish clubs) thinks money is now ruining the games when they aren't the richest anymore...

Our game has just ended, easy win. We played rather well but Mbappé missed a ton of chances. He scored 2 but could have 4 or 5.
I'm kinda getting scared for United return now : everything is going to well at PSG and every time it happens, there is always something bad incoming. Haha !

Don’t you dare lose. ;-)

 

[Parisian]

Don’t you dare lose. ;-)

I hope we win, not even a draw. CL is giving a lot of money for wins. Would be hilarious to beat their FFP with their cash prize.

Notice how they introduced their new metric for cash prize with an "historical" bonus prize.
We have to rake up the wins for the coefficient.

 

[M12Blue]

I hope we win, not even a draw. CL is giving a lot of money for wins. Would be hilarious to beat their FFP with their cash prize.

Notice how they introduced their new metric for cash prize with an "historical" bonus prize.
We have to rake up the wins for the coefficient.

You’ll only have the runners up wedge of cash ;)

 

[Parisian]

You’ll only have the runners up wedge of cash ;)

Well, at this exact moment, i would sign for runner's up money.
When you win 4 - 0, to lose the qualification in the return leg with shit display and dubious refereeing, you take one game at the time mentality. Most PSG are still traumatized and we won't be overconfident even if we had to face Fulham for example.
We are not exactly favorites to win the whole thing so runners' up would be great (even if you'll always want to win a final).

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Hahaha, i can see why !!!
Oh, i read your messages guys and i'm glad to see your opinions.

Yeah, the same old cartel that broke spending records after spending records, that accumulate billions of debt (wink wink spanish clubs) thinks money is now ruining the games when they aren't the richest anymore...

Our game has just ended, easy win. We played rather well but Mbappé missed a ton of chances. He scored 2 but could have 4 or 5.
I'm kinda getting scared for United return now : everything is going to well at PSG and every time it happens, there is always something bad incoming. Haha !

The blatant hypocrisy of the old cartel clubs is the reason for the focus on City and PSG.

It is pathetic but just so typical of their greed and arrogance.

New kids on the block are so bloody annoying !!

 

[KS55]

I have a dream. Somewhere a hacker, a blue, is working away to get hold of Bayern's darkest secrets. Klinsmann exposed as a sexual predator, their commercial share holders trickling money in, Hoeness is a nazi.... etc etc What a coup that would be.