PSG ticket prices - Protest options v West Brom.

[Paul_Powers_Tash]

I wasn't aware of most of the above tbh. It's fantastic that some fans are prepared to get off their arses and do something to make a difference.

Let me be clear, I'm not anti anyone voicing their view that football is becoming too expensive for your long term fan. What I am against is hammering our owners and the club in isolation and shining a light on Mcfc specifically.

No problem lobbying the club and making the argument for lower prices,but I'm dead set against mass protests, walk outs and the like as that is only damaging the reputation of the club we all love and when you weigh everything up I don't think that the situation has reached a level that warrants that level of discontent, particularly when compared to other premier league clubs.

+1. Why others think it's smart to arrange a public protest against our club is perplexing. Perhaps it's our self destruction gene in action again. The club have worked hard to change that meme but clearly it still prevails. Our owners have transformed the club from 'also rans' to global players. Our ticket prices are lower than similar clubs and we have season tickets at £299.

Let's see what the club do with season ticket prices next season before 'City fans turn on Abu Dhabi' makes the back pages.

 

[John Wayne]

It's the fact it keeps rising year on year that frustrates people. The additional revenue is peanuts to City but can affect whether or not a long-standing fan can still attend games. The poor signings, the huge influx of money from television this summer and the team's abysmal league performances this season means that there is NO justification for a rise in any single person's season ticket this summer. Not even a penny. Inevitably people will defend the club until we're paying Arsenal prices and they themselves cannot afford to go. For what it's worth, the club should freeze them and keep everyone happy. If they put them up then they are really out-of-touch.

 

[M18CTID]

+1. Why others think it's smart to arrange a public protest against our club is perplexing. Perhaps it's our self destruction gene in action again. The club have worked hard to change that meme but clearly it still prevails. Our owners have transformed the club from 'also rans' to global players. Our ticket prices are lower than similar clubs and we have season tickets at £299.

Let's see what the club do with season ticket prices next season before 'City fans turn on Abu Dhabi' makes the back pages.

Fucking hell, are you still here? Have you not bothered reading anything that's been said previously on this and other threads? You've twisted pretty much every point that's been made and your lack of self awareness as to what's been happening and what some fans have been trying to do about it is astonishing. No-one is advocating turning on our owner, just that certain employees at the club may have lost touch with the core support and it's for everyone's benefit - both club and fans - that that perceived disconnect is addressed.

Then again, I wonder if you're even a City fan because anyone who criticises the tens of thousands of blues that demonstrated against Swales can't be a blue in my eyes.

 

[Paul_Powers_Tash]

Here we go again. Let me try and explain this one more time in easy terms in the increasingly forlorn hope that you might understand. There is no such thing as a group of executives who work for the club but don't represent the view of the club or that of the owners. The club works as a collective from Khaldoon down and Khaldoon represents and works with full oversight from Sheikh Mansour. To suggest that there is some 'rogue' group of executives within the club acting on their own agenda is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. You've clearly never worked in a professional organisation. If you protest then you protest against the club and Shiekh Mansour. You don't protest against these fictitious rogue group who don't exist.

As for criticising fans who demonstrated against Swales if you read back I have never said that. My only reference to Swales was in a discussion to point out that we have never owned the club, not now and not then, not even in the mythical good old days I pointed out it was owned by Peter Swales and his friends. As for not criticising Swales I was one of the idiots protesting against him at the time.

You my friend are like pork. You can bake it, you can boil it and you can roast it; but you can't educate it!

 

[jrb]

+1. Why others think it's smart to arrange a public protest against our club is perplexing. Perhaps it's our self destruction gene in action again. The club have worked hard to change that meme but clearly it still prevails. Our owners have transformed the club from 'also rans' to global players. Our ticket prices are lower than similar clubs and we have season tickets at £299.

Let's see what the club do with season ticket prices next season before 'City fans turn on Abu Dhabi' makes the back pages.

It's not a public protest against the club. It's not a public protest against Sheikh Mansour. It a protest against expensice ticket prices at City.

This isn't a Swales/Mansour out protest. As I've posted on another thread, all of us are grateful for what Sheikh Mansour has done for the club.

Our matchday tickets are on a par and comparable with the rest of tbe biggest clubs now. Yes we have a limited amount of £299 season tickets due to the expansion of the SS. On the flip side, season tickets and matcday tickets have gone up in other parts of the stadium to compensate.(level 2, etc) Once again, the blocks have also been price tiered, meaning fans who have always payed the same in a block now pay different prices.

Here we go again. Let me try and explain this one more time in easy terms in the increasingly forlorn hope that you might understand. There is no such thing as a group of executives who work for the club but don't represent the view of the club or that of the owners. The club works as a collective from Khaldoon down and Khaldoon represents and works with full oversight from Sheikh Mansour. To suggest that there is some 'rogue' group of executives within the club acting on their own agenda is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. You've clearly never worked in a professional organisation. If you protest then you protest against the club and Shiekh Mansour. You don't protest against these fictitious rogue group who don't exist.

As for criticising fans who demonstrated against Swales if you read back I have never said that. My only reference to Swales was in a discussion to point out that we have never owned the club, not now and not then, not even in the mythical good old days I pointed out it was owned by Peter Swales and his friends. As for not criticising Swales I was one of the idiots protesting against him at the time.

You my friend are like pork. You can bake it, you can boil it and you can roast it; but you can't educate it!

No Paul.

If there is a protest, and there are banners, they will refer to cheaper tickets for City fans, and not against Sheikh Mansour, or Sheikh Mansour out. A protest for cheaper tickets for all City fans is not a protest against Sheikh Mansour. And I find it hard to believe you can't see and accept that, regardless of how you dress it up and twist it.

 

[Paul_Powers_Tash]

It's not a public protest against the club. It's not a public protest against Sheikh Mansour. It a protest against expensice ticket prices at City.

This isn't a Swales/Mansour out protest. As I've posted on another thread, all of us are grateful for what Sheikh Mansour has done for the club.

Our matchday tickets are on a par and comparable with the rest of tbe biggest clubs now. Yes we have a limited amount of £299 season tickets due to the expansion of the SS. On the flip side, season tickets and matcday tickets have gone up in other parts of the stadium to compensate.(level 2, etc) Once again, the blocks have also been price tiered, meaning fans who have always payed the same in a block now pay different prices.


No Paul.

If there is any protest, and there are banners, they will refer to cheaper tickets for City fans, and not against Sheikh Mansour, or Sheikh Mansour out. A protest for cheaper tickets for all City fans is not a protest against Sheikh Mansour. And I find it hard to believe you can't see and accept that, regardless of how you dress it up or twist it.

How can a protest about our ticket prices not be a protest against the club who set the ticket prices and ergo a protest against Sheikh Mansour?

 

[jrb]

In that case, how can a letter, a meeting, and a discussion with City officials about ticket prices not be a protest about Sheikh Mansour then?

Do you think for one minute I would spend nearly 3 years of my life photographing the construction of the CFA and SS if I wanted Sheikh Mansour out, or if I didn't like him as our owner? Do you know how much good PR my pictures afforded City during those 3 years? Those pictures went all around the World. They were free for anyone or any organisation to use. I didn't expect anything from the club. Neither did I ask for anything. TBF the club did invite me to some events on the back of those pictures, and the likes of Danny Wilson and Vicky Kloss were very approachable and great hosts. For that I will always be grateful. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything City do. Do I have a problem with some ticket prices, yes I do. Do I want as many City fans as possible to get the chance to watch City via affordable tickets, yes I do. What's wrong with that? If City decided to freeze or reduce season ticket and matchday tickets next season, I will be happy with that. Hopefully the concerns about ticket prices from the fans on the terraces, via OSB, 1894, forums, website, etc, will make the club review season ticket and matchday ticket prices next season. That's all I and other City fans want.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

How can a protest about our ticket prices not be a protest against the club who set the ticket prices and ergo a protest against Sheikh Mansour?

Let's try an analogy.

Don't know if you're married or not mate but have you ever had an argument with your wife/partner? Maybe she's done something that annoyed you, like arrange a social event when you've told her you're going somewhere else or made something for your tea that you've told her you don't like. So you have a row about it, one or both of you says sorry and you sort it out. She checks with you before making arrangements or doesn't make you whatever it is you don't like again. Unless it's the final straw after you haven't been getting on for a while, you don't decide to get divorced because she made you Shepherd's Pie, Quiche or whatever. She just realises she's made a mistake, doesn't repeat it and you put it to one side and get on with your life.

Get the picture?

You're sounding like one of those people who seriously believes that the people you see as your betters always get it right, even if what they're telling you sounds completely stupid or plain wrong. Sometimes, people paid fortunes get things wrong because they only see things from one angle without thinking of the impact that will have on the people impacted by the decision.

I'm not even sure what you're saying. Is it that the club hasn't made a mistake or that it has but we should just keep quiet and not mention it in case we upset them?

 

[worsleyweb]

Let's try an analogy.

Don't know if you're married or not mate but have you ever had an argument with your wife/partner? Maybe she's done something that annoyed you, like arrange a social event when you've told her you're going somewhere else or made something for your tea that you've told her you don't like. So you have a row about it, one or both of you says sorry and you sort it out. She checks with you before making arrangements or doesn't make you whatever it is you don't like again. Unless it's the final straw after you haven't been getting on for a while, you don't decide to get divorced because she made you Shepherd's Pie, Quiche or whatever. She just realises she's made a mistake, doesn't repeat it and you put it to one side and get on with your life.

Get the picture?

You're sounding like one of those people who seriously believes that the people you see as your betters always get it right, even if what they're telling you sounds completely stupid or plain wrong. Sometimes, people paid fortunes get things wrong because they only see things from one angle without thinking of the impact that will have on the people impacted by the decision.

I'm not even sure what you're saying. Is it that the club hasn't made a mistake or that it has but we should just keep quiet and not mention it in case we upset them?

Never had a wrong word with mrs ww and she has never annoyed me so difficult for me use this comparison.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

How can a protest about our ticket prices not be a protest against the club who set the ticket prices and ergo a protest against Sheikh Mansour?

Sheikh Mansour does not set the ticket prices, he's not involved in the day to day running of the club, he delegates that to the people he employs.

Soriano and Glick for example. That's who the criticism of a protest would be aimed at, it's their pricing policies that are harming the support.

I've made this point previously, but for all we know Sheikh Mansour might be unaware of the discontent these two are causing among the support, they might give him the impression everything is rosy leaving him none the wiser. You could look at a protest as a direct appeal to Sheikh Mansour above their heads, given he's made direct promises to us about always doing right by the support in his open letter to us when he first took over. He might be as unhappy as we are if he learnt the people he employed are not honouring those promises. And besides, he's a smart business man, he'll know it makes no sense to alienate the support for insignificant sums of money to the overall revenue. It's not even smart business sense.

But it's all by the by, you're not really interested in examining this topic sincerely or in any real depth, you're just scraping the barrel for more crap to tar anyone who believes a protest in opposition to ticket prices at City is necessary, the narrative that we're all entitled ingrates is just another snide straw to clutch at.