PSG ticket prices - Protest options v West Brom.

If fans are serious they should pick the Arsenal game so it looks less of a knee jerk reaction and more considered.

Liverpool picking Sunderland and Home and City choosing West Brom looks like the less popular games are being selected, where NSL1, SSL3 won't turn up anyway and the 'premium' seats won't be sold out.
 
It won't sell out mate,I'm sure we have only fully sold 3-4 since we started playing CL football and we didn't sell out when it was 47000 capacity.

It's simply too expensive especially if you are taking family along with you- fine if you are going on your own, how can you say to your kids I'm going as I can't afford to take you aswell? It's that reason that rules me out .
Tickets as a whole are too expensive and nobody can deny that.I thought City would make groundbreaking headlines when the new stand opened, instead we got fans clambering for level three because level 2 prices in cases went through the roof.

It's getting young adults and teenagers attending that is THE big worry for me, tomorrow's fans, they should be queueing round the block to get in.

They are getting it wrong, why the fuck shouldn't we show our displeasure.

The north stand extension will be a white elephant unless they listen to the fans.

Great post. I'll be there against PSG and it will cost me £50. I'd still be there if it cost me £70 or £80. I only have to pay for myself and I can afford it. Tens of thousands of our fans though are not in that position. The PSG match could have been "one of those great European nights" like we keep hearing about when the media go on about Liverpool. The match against Hamburg was despite us going out. The club is missing a huge opportunity to capture younger fans who will be fans for decades to come.

People say we should be grateful to Sheikh Mansour and yes, we should, but we don't owe any loyalty to the likes of Soriano. Sheikh Mansour didn't object when Garry Cook sold Hamburg tickets at a fiver a head. Why would he object if we were to do something similar now? He's looking long term at growing "the brand".He ultimately wants a stadium that holds 80,000 and that's full for every match.That is good for "the brand". 15,000 empty seats for a CL QF is immensely damaging to "the brand". A few hundred grand of gate money either way is immaterial. He's almost certainly unaware of any discontent over pricing. Nobody is suggesting mass demonstrations against Sheikh Mansour like we had in the Swales era but a few banners highlighting the problem would attract his attention.

Personally I reckon he'd be pissed off with Soriano and Khaldoon, to a lesser extent for taking his eye off the ball, and not the supporters.
 
Agreed but that's German football. They also allow standing which helps to reduce ticket prices so it's not quite apples to apples.

We have the best owners in world football imo, they have delivered success that was simply a pipe dream 10 years ago. They have transformed a decaying region of Manchester and continue to do so, they put revenue into local businesses through sourcing products locally and yet just because they have the temerity to charge more for a game in the quarter finals of the champions league for the first time in our history there's talk of demonstrations, mass walkouts, frankly it shows a complete lack of gratitude.

Write letters to the club, get Kevin Parker to ask for some time with Soriano and other fan groups, don't buy a ticket for the game, but to initiate demo's and the like, and shine a negative light on the club you love is wrong imo. It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

If you think our ticket prices are too high then fair enough, (I personally think they're pretty much in line with other forms of entertainment - but I think most things like that are too expensive these days) but ticket pricing has to change across all the premiership not just MCFC. We can't exist in a separate paradigm. Rough calculations mean it would cost the club 300m over 10 years to drop prices by 20 quid a ticket so it's not trivial.
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Last night, when I was awake again with my very annoying chronic insomnia, I was reading an interesting article written by an Arsenal fan who was arguing the case against the tide of Arsenal fans bemoaning the prices they charge for matchday tickets. The fans against the prices were comparing with Wigan who had the cheapest seats for matchday.

He argued that as Arsenal sell out every home game, then the prices were actually too low. If Demand exceeds supply then the price should rise. In his argument it was actually Wigan who were charging too much because they had empty seats every home game. They had effectively set prices too high and could not sell them at that price to get a full stadium. The rags exploited this to the max with their high matchday prices, compulsory cup schemes etc as under Ferguson the fans didn't want to miss out. They sold out virtually every game despite the costs being high. As their success has waned, they have seen demand wane and have slightly relaxed some of their policies but not by much. That's because they and to an extent Liverpool have the fan base to help meet demand. Arsenal and chelsea have the benefit of being in the capital where there will always be thousands of tourists at any one time.

His argument in basic economic terms is correct. The price of a good is usually directly linked to the demand for it.

However in football, it doesn't seem to work that way because there are other factors that come into play. Clubs have realised that where there is limited demand (us in the CL, Wigan in the league, most lower league clubs) then it doesn't matter what the club do, they won't increase demand. Even at buy one get one free, there were still empty seats for us in this competition.

They therefore look at the maximising revenue point. They play on fan loyalty to achieve this. That's why ticket prices are still very high at the likes of Leeds.

I think it is completely wrong to do this but the head of matchday revenue will be earning very large bonuses for year on year increases and unfortunately their bonus and job retention is more important than what people they don't know think about it. It will only be when the revenue increases start to slip or actually revenue declines that they will do something about it. They are probably aware that some people won't buy tickets but that apathy and the love of the club will override this for the majority. They will also more than likely think that as it is Easter holidays more kids will attend, more tourists will come and that the QF status will add a few bums on seats. They will be prepared for some people not joining the cup scheme next season in protest but will be relying on the Pep factor to address this. These are the other factors.

They don't care about people being priced out as long as there is somebody to take their place. They have annoyed people before with price increases, not least many of those in padded seats level 2'who had been sat there since the stadium was opened and have been forced to move as they could no longer afford those prices. I was one of them and I'm sure they don't lose any sleep over me now being in SS3 as long as they are making more from the person in the padded seat. They have probably had the discussion that people moaned about it and they had a few complaints etc but 95% renewed in that part of the ground or elsewhere. They will use this experience for current pricing policy.

The only way to affect this is to not buy tickets if you don't agree with the pricing and to not renew the CL scheme next season and then hope that there is not the demand there to replace you. We will only see price reductions when this decision making starts to affect revenue growth.





Good read.

That is true to a point, but eventually it get's to the tpping point. I'm canceling my cup scheme next season like many other fans have been doing. That guaranteed money and interest earned for the club will be gone. Now the Exec at City can juggle the figure's all he want's when he present's them to Soriano, but the bottom line is City will be missing out on additional money, coupled with additional empty seats. Yes the tourists, day trppers, half and halfs, plus extra money from the CL, BT, advertising, and possible/probable CL ticket price rises next season will make up for that lost revenue. Ultimately if that's what the people running the club want, then fair enough.
 
If fans are serious they should pick the Arsenal game so it looks less of a knee jerk reaction and more considered.

Liverpool picking Sunderland and Home and City choosing West Brom looks like the less popular games are being selected, where NSL1, SSL3 won't turn up anyway and the 'premium' seats won't be sold out.


It is in the middle of the Manchester schools Easter holidays which will mean that many especially in the Family Stand will be missing anyway
 
Am sure that when HRH bought the club,he or a spokesman,stated that in-time they wanted to expand the stadium capacity,thus lower prices whilst keeping the feel as a family club..
And making it a family day out...
Seems someone not been reading the same page..
 
The problem with people cancelling their Cup Schemes next season is that it will take us one step closer to Seasoncard price increases to include a fixed number of cup games.
 
This may well be our lowest attendance of the whole CL campaign despite being our biggest game of the season in this competition. What will your excuse be for that if it's not the prices?

Over the past few seasons we've sold out every single FA Cup game we've had against Championship opposition bar a midweek January replay against Blackburn. The prices in all those games were more than reasonable. In 2009 we sold out a UEFA Cup game against Hamburg in no time at all. Later that year we even managed to get over 37,000 for a midweek League Cup match against Scunthorpe.

It's harder for us to sell out midweek games but if this one had been priced sensibly then we'd have sold it out no problem IMO. If you don't think there's a correlation between pricing and attendance then you need to give your head a shake.

Ive given it a shake and we still couldn't fill the ground even with all of the ticket deals the club has offered for CL games this season. The technical term is price elasticity.
 
Cmon guys, if the sheik had said we are going to make city into a global brand but that it might mean higher ticket prices, would you have told them to fuck off and take your money elsewhere? We would still have bitten their hands off and you know it.... and it was inevitable the ticket prices would go up for bigger games, it,s a consequence and as long as we are on a par with other clubs prices I have no issues...
 

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