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Bill Walker

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At Last !!!

Our state government have done something really good. From August all public transportation, Buses, Trams, Trains, Ferries will be 50 cents per journey (about 26 pence).

Should take some cars off the road and persuade people to think about using public transport. I think it's the future as more and more people want cars, when I grew up we had 1 car, now families have several.

I'm always impressed when i go to Asian countries like Japan or Singapore at the awesome public transport.

People in the UK should tell politicians to make it better and cheaper as a priority and a vote winner.
 
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I'm not sure it just being cheaper is gonna work here. Although it might help to start.

I drive to London these days. If I got the train for me, the mrs and the nipper it would cost in excess of £250. Unless i plan to go this time next year on a full moon.... then we might just get it for a similar cost to the car.

Costs me £60 in diesel there and back. Takes 3 hours from mine to Canons park where i park. Then a 25 min tube journey.
 
Buses are free for FOCs after 9-30. In Manchester trams can be added to the FOC bus pass for £10 a year.
An FOC train pass knocks about 30% off the price which is OK unless you travel to London in which case it's still bloody expensive. The FOC train pass is £30 per year or £70 for 3 years IIRC.
 
Merseyrail is ok. I can get to New Brighton, Chester or Southport with ease at about £6 for an all day pass. The all day any bus ticket is £5.50 too which pays for itself after three rides.
 
It's the pits. No one will shift out of their car primarily because of journeys home from work like I am having right now.
Trams to Bury up it due to road traffic accident in Piccadilly so I caught the bus. 135, horrible journey anyway made 10 times worse by being jammed packed.
Everyone then turfed off the bus just before heaton Park. I am now stuck on a another bus going a circuitous route to Bury.
I left work at 4pm over 1 1/2 hours ago and I am not even in bloody Prestwich yet.
 
Bill Walker said:
At Last !!!

Our state government have done something really good. From August all public transportation, Buses, Trams, Trains, Ferries will be 50 cents per journey (about 26 pence).

Should take some cars off the road and persuade people to think about using public transport. I think it's the future as more and more people want cars, when I grew up we had 1 car, now families have several.

I'm always impressed when i go to Asian countries like Japan or Singapore at the awesome public transport.

People in the UK should tell politicians to make it better and cheaper as a priority and a vote winner.
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Some European cities have made theirs free to residents.

Won't happen here as it all profit driven by arseholes such as stagecoach.
 
I booked a train this week.
Return to London euston for next month so plenty of time in advance.
£369.40
Good job my work are paying.
 
Was in Brighton few days back - looked at buying a train ticket to Shoreham. £5.10 single or £13.00 if I used my railcard ??
Brighton to Hastings costs me £23 for a day return yet a return to London only cost me £16 - it's like they just make up the prices as they go along, no logic whatsoever
 
Before we moan about private companies running things.....

Remember who runs the tram in Manchester and how shit it is.
 
Blue Mist said:
Before we moan about private companies running things.....

Remember who runs the tram in Manchester and how shit it is.
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Is that Keolis, the private French transport operator, who are following on from French government owned RATP Group, who took over the failed contract of private transport company Stagecoach, who followed on from private company Serco?
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Is that Keolis, the private French transport operator, who are following on from French government owned RATP Group, who took over the failed contract of private transport company Stagecoach, who followed on from private company Serco?
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I'm not with you.
The Met is owned by Transport for Greater Manchester a public body. Keolis/Amey run it on their behalf but it is a contract for local government. They do what a public bodybtell them to and it is a system that is not fir for purpose.
 
Lavinda Past said:
When I was working, I frequently found flying to be the cheaper option, even taking onward tube / bus fares into account!

Rail prices are ridiculously high in the UK.
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I was going on stag do to Liverpool few years ago (from London). It was cheaper to fly London-Dublin-Liverpool than get direct train. I ended up splitting train journey and going via Birmingham
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Is that Keolis, the private French transport operator, who are following on from French government owned RATP Group, who took over the failed contract of private transport company Stagecoach, who followed on from private company Serco?
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It's almost as if they are sharing the scam about and not giving two fucks how obvious it is.
 
Blue Mist said:
I'm not with you.
The Met is owned by Transport for Greater Manchester a public body. Keolis/Amey run it on their behalf but it is a contract for local government. They do what a public bodybtell them to and it is a system that is not fir for purpose.
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The operators are given long contracts to run the service. They don’t get a phone call from Andy Burnhan telling them to make a balls of running it. Similarly, Amey, who have the contract to manage the stock don’t get told how to do it.
The failure of the tram system was inevitable once it was designed ‘on road’ and, as usual with UK infrastructure, it was done on the cheap.
Finally, unlike TFL, the Manchester Metro attracts no government subsidy meaning modernisation and upgrades are done in a piecemeal fashion.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Train tickets are ridiculous in this country.

It’s cheaper to drive, which given the fuel prices we pay says a lot about how much of a rip off public transport is.
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I looked at tickets to go to London in November two weeks ago £77 return, cheapest now £150-£180! For the same trip, so guess what me and my mate will drive down, says it all really will cost us about £60-70 in fuel.
 
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