Qatar Stats - This is Truly Pathetic. What a Joke.

[kun]

REASONS FOR:

Russia - Money

Qatar - Money

REASONS AGAINST:

Russia - Racism against Black people, Mafia, Lack of passion for footall, Cold, Political instability, Lack of Stadia, Bad history (Lenin, Stalin ECT.), Poor presentation

Qatar - Size, Population, Racism against Buddhists and Jews and Hindus and Isrealis, Lack of Stadia, Lack of passion for football, Lack of football clubs (24), Overheat, Quality of players, Poor Presentation

 

[Unknown_Genius]

REASONS FOR:

Russia - Money

Qatar - Money

REASONS AGAINST:

Russia - Racism against Black people, Mafia, Lack of passion for footall, Cold, Political instability, Lack of Stadia, Bad history (Lenin, Stalin ECT.), Poor presentation

Qatar - Size, Population, Racism against Buddhists and Jews and Hindus and Isrealis, Lack of Stadia, Lack of passion for football, Lack of football clubs (24), Overheat, Quality of players, Poor Presentation

Disagree with so many of those reasons against. Lack of passion for football? Russia are very passionate about football, their League is getting stronger, Russian clubs are dangerous in Europe, and can attract top players. Cold? It gets hotter in some parts of Russia, than in the UK in summer. Bad history? By that logic the USA, Japan, Germany, South Africa, and England should never get it. They have 8 years to build their stadiums, its not like they're hosting it tommorow. Poor presentation? I thought they presented their bid well, Arshavin's speech was far better than Beckham's.

 

[selim]

Israelis are not safe in any arab country. Period. They had to run for their lives from regions in Iraq, Eqypt, Morocco, and Syria when Israel was founded, so I have no sympathy for any Arabs who claim to be the "victims" of oppression in Palestine.

Israel has simply won too many wars, and the Arabs are sore losers. And god damn do I hate saying that after all that the Arab world has done for my beloved club. I really, really have nothing again them, it's just what has happened to Israel and Jews everywhere is unjust. They are victims in the middle east, not the victimizers, and the global media can't accept that a first world country is in the right.

They lived in harmony with arabs for years till they chose to steal Palestine .as for them having to run for their lives from moroccco,not sure about that,there are still jews there.As for them leaving Egypt i suggest you read this:
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair</a>

 

[LoveCity]

Both countries are also extremely homophobia, which side by side with racism in both, goes completely against the whole tolerance message football is supposed to preach. What a joke, indeed.

 

[mike o]

REASONS FOR:

Russia - Money

Qatar - Money

REASONS AGAINST:

Russia - Racism against Black people, Mafia, Lack of passion for footall, Cold, Political instability, Lack of Stadia, Bad history (Lenin, Stalin ECT.), Poor presentation

Bit silly this as you can list reasons against for them all.....

Spain - Racism against Black people, ETA, too warm, Political instability/Economy, Bad history (Franco/Facisim.), Poor presentation

England - Politicly/financially unstable,possible terrorsit attacks, Bad history (British empire/slavery), Media campaign against FIFA, Hooliganism.

The best bids didn't win but the arrogance of people in this country towards the Russian bid is amazing. Its hardly the 3rd world

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

REASONS FOR:

Russia - Money

Qatar - Money

REASONS AGAINST:

Russia - Racism against Black people, Mafia, Lack of passion for footall, Cold, Political instability, Lack of Stadia, Bad history (Lenin, Stalin ECT.), Poor presentation

Bit silly this as you can list reasons against for them all.....

Spain - Racism against Black people, ETA, too warm, Political instability/Economy, Bad history (Franco/Facisim.), Poor presentation

England - Politicly/financially unstable,possible terrorsit attacks, Bad history (British empire/slavery), Media campaign against FIFA, Hooliganism.

The best bids didn't win but the arrogance of people in this country towards the Russian bid is amazing. Its hardly the 3rd world

Maybe you could go to Russia and explain that to 80% of russian people who live in extreme poverty

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

I'm thinking of putting forward a bid for the World Cup in my back garden. It's an ambitious plan but it will create jobs, improve travel and is totally green. Trust me I'm an emerging footballing nation with a lot of expendable income.

I put that as my facebook status, moston for the 2026 bid with stadiums on balloons

We could have stadiums at Boggart Hole Clough (The Pat Karney Stadium), Broadhurst Fields (The Smug Roberts Stadium), Moston Vale (The Ben Brierley stadium) and a new stadium on the ''ghost streets'' around Bute Street (the Graham Stringer stadium).

 

[mike o]

Bit silly this as you can list reasons against for them all.....

Spain - Racism against Black people, ETA, too warm, Political instability/Economy, Bad history (Franco/Facisim.), Poor presentation

England - Politicly/financially unstable,possible terrorsit attacks, Bad history (British empire/slavery), Media campaign against FIFA, Hooliganism.

The best bids didn't win but the arrogance of people in this country towards the Russian bid is amazing. Its hardly the 3rd world

Maybe you could go to Russia and explain that to 80% of russian people who live in extreme poverty

That just isn't true. Its around 15% living below the poverty line

America is 12% and were 14% for context

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_pop_bel_pov_lin-economy-population-below-poverty-line" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_p ... verty-line</a>

There's also a huge difference between living below the poverty line and living in "extreme poverty"

Russia have every right to host it and have the financial muscle to make it a success. People need to get over it.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Sepp Blatter was asked to name one of the best Qatar players.
He replied ''Eric Clapton''

 

[Bobby4Mayor]

Israelis are not safe in any arab country. Period. They had to run for their lives from regions in Iraq, Eqypt, Morocco, and Syria when Israel was founded, so I have no sympathy for any Arabs who claim to be the "victims" of oppression in Palestine.

Israel has simply won too many wars, and the Arabs are sore losers. And god damn do I hate saying that after all that the Arab world has done for my beloved club. I really, really have nothing again them, it's just what has happened to Israel and Jews everywhere is unjust. They are victims in the middle east, not the victimizers, and the global media can't accept that a first world country is in the right.

Problem for this argument is that what the Jews faced was a reaction to what happened to the Palestinians who had to flee. Even if you can't acknowledge there is some truth in Ilan Pappé's argument of ethnic cleansing, Benny Morris' accounts should clear up any doubt that the Palestinians chose to flee but did so out of fear, making them legitimate refugees. It was also not Palestinians who forced Jews to flee. It's all fine with you though, presumably they all melt into one don't they? All Arabs are the same, Jews, Muslims, Christians etc. The world is so much simpler that way. It's not the world we live in though. Your argument is so fundamentally childish and boils down to two wrongs do make a right, or perhaps an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Actually no, I give you far too much credit in saying that as you go beyond that and then claim they are the sole victims. What happened to the Palestinians was unjust, what happened to Jews in many Arab countries was unjust. I suppose it would be asking too much of you to be human and to have sympathy for two different groups of victims.

I do agree with alot of your points here, but I am not generalizing when I say "arabs." Countries like Iraq, Iran, and other countries who are not geographically involved have at times been the most vocally anti-Israeli. I generalize them as Arabs because this is truly a conflict that the entire Arab world (and beyond, like Libya and Algeria,) have united against. You'll also find that there are many Arabs who live happily and peacefully in Israel itself, not just the West Bank. And there is little (there certainly is some,) anti-arab sentiment. In fact the common Israeli is very sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, and have almost always elected the most left leaning candidate at the polls.

I agree with you, the Palestinians living in the Gaza strip and some parts of the West Bank have horrible standards of living, and certainly worse than before Israel was founded. But this is more due to the surrounding countries like Syria and Lebanon's unwillingness to accept them in large numbers, than Israel forcibly trying to push them out. The Israeli stance has been clear since its foundation. All Arabs currently living within it's borders are free to stay, but when this population threatens the jews of Israel freedoms and rights must be taken away from them to prevent terrorist attacks, just like what happens when radical Jews in Israel attack Arab villages. I believe the surrounding Arab countries are using the trapped in Palestinians as pawns in their negotiations, as a weapon to evoke global sympathy for their cause. Why do I think this? The Arabs who have chosen to live among the Israeli populace and accept the new order have flourished, but been shunned by the Arab world. Why? Because it contradicts there stance that they are being suppressed by Israel.