Queen Elizabeth II

[Octavian]

Lol.

What did I say about growing up lad?

“lol” is the response of a 14 year old

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Well to begin with the reports were in the Mirror, a newspaper not known for its pro monarchist views.

She literally signs off new laws doesn’t she?

I’m hoping she holds the scraggy **** to account but she’s getting on now and maybe it’s a little too late. I hope Charles will do so tho

Which law did she refuse to sign off?

You do know that some people on the left are monarchists too? Yeah?

She can’t hold anyone to account as she a ceremonial monarch, 96 and stopping more and more public engagements.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

What did I say about growing up lad?

“lol” is the response of a 14 year old

Stop bullshitting then, you are clearly confused and making it up as you go along.

FOC.

 

[Octavian]

Which law did she refuse to sign off?

You do know that some people on the left are monarchists too? Yeah?

She can’t hold anyone to account as she a ceremonial monarch, 96 and stopping more and more public engagements.

I never said she did refuse to sign a law off, I am saying she can.

Yes, I do know that, although you’ve contradicted your point earlier where you insinuated monarchists weren’t bothered by climate change. The monarchy and climate change concern spans all sides of the political spectrum.

She will struggle due to her age and again, that’s what I said.

 

[Octavian]

Stop bullshitting then, you are clearly confused and making it up as you go along.

FOC.

Why don’t you actually take me up on my points rather than writing like a teenager and if you’re right and I’m wrong surely you’d rather actually prove it than writing “lol”?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I never said she did refuse to sign a law off, I am saying she can.

Yes, I do know that, although you’ve contradicted your point earlier where you insinuated monarchists weren’t bothered by climate change. The monarchy and climate change concern spans all sides of the political spectrum.

She will struggle due to her age and again, that’s what I said.

Sigh.

She can refuse to sign a law off, but she’s chosen not to so far.
She’s leaving it late in the day to do so.
I reckon she might never do this.
Are there odds on this?

Most monarchists are getting on in life.
Most climate change deniers are also getting on in life.

There may not be a correlation, but I reckon that if you did a Venn diagram, there’d be quite the union.

The monarch is a ceremonial role, and has been for a long time.

 

[Octavian]

Sigh.

She can refuse to sign a law off, but she’s chosen not to so far.
She’s leaving it late in the day to do so.
I reckon she might never do this.
Are there odds on this?

Most monarchists are getting on in life.
Most climate change deniers are also getting on in life.

There may not be a correlation, but I reckon that if you did a Venn diagram, there’d be quite the union.

The monarch is a ceremonial role, and has been for a long time.

Why the sigh when you’re changing your question every post?

I never said she did refuse to sign off a law, now you’re saying she may never - so? She hasn’t seen a law she felt was extreme enough to refuse sign off, obviously.

People’s opinions change as they get older. There’s more revolutionary socialists aged 18 than any other age group but they become more socially conservative the older they get. The 18 year olds who are anti monarchy today will likely be pro monarchy aged 40, it’s the way things tend to go.

It looks ceremonial because of her behaviour. That’s what she deserves a lot of credit for.

 

[mat]

Sigh.

She can refuse to sign a law off, but she’s chosen not to so far.
She’s leaving it late in the day to do so.
I reckon she might never do this.
Are there odds on this?

Most monarchists are getting on in life.
Most climate change deniers are also getting on in life.

There may not be a correlation, but I reckon that if you did a Venn diagram, there’d be quite the union.

The monarch is a ceremonial role, and has been for a long time.

I've just come back from the future. The news is historical documents reveal that during the last years of her reign Lizzie treated Johnson the PM the way she was treated by him. By changing her official signature from Elizabeth R to a spunking cock and balls.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Why the sigh when you’re changing your question every post?

I never said she did refuse to sign off a law, now you’re saying she may never - so? She hasn’t seen a law she felt was extreme enough to refuse sign off, obviously.

People’s opinions change as they get older. There’s more revolutionary socialists aged 18 than any other age group but they become more socially conservative the older they get. The 18 year olds who are anti monarchy today will likely be pro monarchy aged 40, it’s the way things tend to go.

It looks ceremonial because of her behaviour. That’s what she deserves a lot of credit for.

What can the Queen actually do now? Nothing.
Is her role ceremonial? Yes.
Will more or less people be monarchists after she dies? Less.
Will the monarchy survive? Who knows?
Being pro or anti monarchy is not political, however much you try to say it is.

It is ceremonial as she has no powers, and if Charles starts trying to invoke old ones, he’ll be in the tower like one of his predecessors.

I’m 42. None of my peer group are particularly pro monarchy. They think the Queen is alright, but she’s not put her oar in.

Once Charles does, bye bye monarchy.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Why don’t you actually take me up on my points rather than writing like a teenager and if you’re right and I’m wrong surely you’d rather actually prove it than writing “lol”?

The lol was in response to you telling another poster to do their homework. Your interpretation of the constitution is flawed and confused.

If you can't exercise power without losing it then you don't have any real power. It is as simple as that.

Why the sigh when you’re changing your question every post?

I never said she did refuse to sign off a law, now you’re saying she may never - so? She hasn’t seen a law she felt was extreme enough to refuse sign off, obviously.

People’s opinions change as they get older. There’s more revolutionary socialists aged 18 than any other age group but they become more socially conservative the older they get. The 18 year olds who are anti monarchy today will likely be pro monarchy aged 40, it’s the way things tend to go.

It looks ceremonial because of her behaviour. That’s what she deserves a lot of credit for.

Citation needed.