Queen Elizabeth II

Octavian said:
She could do that, her power is far greater than the layman thinks but she COULD only do it in an extreme circumstance where the vast majority of the public was calling for her to do it, otherwise the public would turn against the monarchy.

The entire thing is based upon public opinion.
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Exactly, so moot in the 21st Century.
 
cyberblue said:
We live in a sick society where we have a "Family" who most wouldnt recognise a days work if it was put in front of them
but have privileges, wealth , Castles ,houses,property,estates beyond belief ( some are hardly used )
The royals and the UK got their wealth on the backs of exploiting people and countries round the world for centuries
The laws of the UK don't apply to them
While people are struggling to "heat or eat" and many are living in abject poverty or sleeping on the streets & are dying because the NHS is on its knees they flaunt their ill gotton gains in front of us People get caught up in the Royal PR machine & get all gooey when they see the Royals waving to us
They need a bigger balcony now as there is many of the hanger oners
We have been brainwashed for years that they do a good job and are good for the country but what benefit are they to us ?
Would the country really be a worse place without them ?
Bunch of scroungers the lot of them
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we live in a sick society where we worship and cheer footballers kicking a ball around whilst earning millions - meanwhile homelessness and food banks are rife ….
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Exactly, so moot in the 21st Century.
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Not at all, you only have to look at the US in January last year. You had an outgoing President refusing to accept a democratic vote and his supporters trying to takeover the gaff. The fact our Prime Minister needs to go and bend the knee and ask permission is a good thing.
 
Octavian said:
She can literally take control of the armed forces if she wished, can’t she? She’d be out of the tower quicker than you could blink.
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This is the legal theory. In practice it would be almost certainly be quite different, a tyrant with any sense would stack the chain of command with their own cronies and her attempts would either fail at the outset or a firefight between the factions would ensue.

You overestimate the monarchy's interest in democracy, the exist to continue existing and because nobody wants their legacy to be bringing it to an end, just like any other bureaucracy.
 
Octavian said:
Not at all, you only have to look at the US in January last year. You had an outgoing President refusing to accept a democratic vote and his supporters trying to takeover the gaff. The fact our Prime Minister needs to go and bend the knee and ask permission is a good thing.
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Have you missed the demonstrations over the past few years?

They are to be made illegal if the present government get their way.
 
Octavian said:
She could do that, her power is far greater than the layman thinks but she COULD only do it in an extreme circumstance where the vast majority of the public was calling for her to do it, otherwise the public would turn against the monarchy.

The entire thing is based upon public opinion.
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No it’s not, the monarchy has not had any executive power for a 100 years plus ..
They do what the government of the day tells em to do … The others royals have opinions and spout them regularly but the head of state does the government’s bidding… End of..!
The Queen is the last of the old world monarchs, the rest will fuck it it up like Harry and his soap star bird have ..
 
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