Question for Bluemoon's Legal Team

[mrbelfry]

See what the PM of Sealand thinks

In the middle of a bloody tariff war right now. Trying to navigate a 25% mark up on creme eggs

 

[mrbelfry]

Thanks for all your advice mate.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Thanks for all your advice mate.

Good luck in your quest mate.

Might be worth contacting Danny Wallace. He tried to start his own country.

 

[SWP's back]

Suppose the nearest you get is that island off India, where they kill unhinged bible bashers who try to visit and convert them.

Although I think even there, they technically come under Indian law and could be prosecuted if the Indian authorities could be arsed with the hassle.

But they just leave them to it.

Near India? Sentinel as close to India as Greece is.

 

[Bill Walker]

I seem to remember reading The Beatles wanted to buy an island in the hippie days and all live on it like a little independent commune making weed and LSD legal, however when they found out all these islands for sale came under the laws of whatever country 'owned them' in an administrative sense they binned the idea.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Mate I'm a single individual on my own island. I've got to sort some nukes out before I think about joining the space race

It's a little known legal fact, but having nuclear weapons that you are willing to launch on a whim makes you immune from any sort of prosecution.

 

[RadcliffeRick]

Good luck in your quest mate.

Might be worth contacting Danny Wallace. He tried to start his own country.

I though his name was William!

 

[calumdown]

i had to look up hedgehog gutter brush.
why is that your weapon of choice?
did you invent the whole scenario because you bought one?
if you are murdering isn't there an easier way?

 

[NPBlue]

Interesting conversation came up over dinner today. Suppose I buy a small island off the coast of Scotland and declare independence. Then someone visits my island from the UK and I murder them using a hedgehog gutter brush. It's my island and I haven't made a law making murder illegal. Can I still be prosecuted?

Buy an island and murder someone. If you're rich enough and slaying people is your natural progression from GBH, make sure it hasn't got a lighthouse on it.

Trinity House takes a dim view of that sort of thing.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Near India? Sentinel as close to India as Greece is.

As a Brit, that's not a thread you want to pull, to be fair.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

To answer the OP's question, yes your trip to Epstein's island still comes under US jurisdiction, even though he bought the island. Any more questions, your highness?

 

[west didsblue]

Interesting conversation came up over dinner today. Suppose I buy a small island off the coast of Scotland and declare independence. Then someone visits my island from the UK and I murder them using a hedgehog gutter brush. It's my island and I haven't made a law making murder illegal. Can I still be prosecuted?

You could probably be prosecuted for listening to adverts on Talksport, and any warranty on the gutter brush would likely be invalidated.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The only moral justification for murdering someone is if they deploy the term ‘legal team’.

 

[NZBlue]

The only moral justification for murdering someone is if they deploy the term ‘legal team’.

Oh dear- make sure nobody gives GDM a hedgehog gutter brush. I think he's in the mood to use it

 

[dickie davies]

Not if the person you inserted the brush into was donald trump

 

[mrbelfry]

The only moral justification for murdering someone is if they deploy the term ‘legal team’.

I know what I did

 

[mrbelfry]

i had to look up hedgehog gutter brush.
why is that your weapon of choice?
did you invent the whole scenario because you bought one?
if you are murdering isn't there an easier way?

Thanks. I'll look into ways I can murder more efficiently. That is what's important here

 

[mrbelfry]

Not if the person you inserted the brush into was donald trump

There will be none of that on my island

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I know what I did

The answer to your question is that all land in the UK is technically crown land, although owning the freehold to land clearly gives you significant rights over it, but even so the land is subject to laws in association with its use e.g. planning. Having rights over property or land does not obviate the requirement to comply with laws more generally. The facts it’s an island is immaterial to that.

So even if you bought this island, it would still ultimately be crown land, and you would still therefore be subject to Scottish law which prohibits murder.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

The answer to your question is that all land in the UK is technically crown land, although owning the freehold to land clearly gives you significant rights over it, but even so the land is subject to laws in association with its use e.g. planning. Having rights over property or land does not obviate the requirement to comply with laws more generally. The facts it’s an island is immaterial to that.

So even if you bought this island, it would still ultimately be crown land, and you would still therefore be subject to Scottish law which prohibits murder.

How about bumming sheep?