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Question Time
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Churchlawtonblue
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Goodness me you just can't see it can you. I think we shall have to leave it there.I'm not suggesting the Remain camp was squeaky clean, what I am suggesting that they did not tell wholesale and widespread lies, unlike the Leave camp, which did. This is not because of how I voted or because of my "agenda", it's because it's what I think is true.
And if it's not, then go ahead and let's here what the copious Remain lies were. Should be easy enough... I'm happy tell you what the Leave lies were. I've given you half a dozen already.
There's a vast difference between making predictions such as we'll need to have an emergence budget, which didn't happen because the bloke who was going to call one got fired... and saying "We cannot prevent Turkey from joining the EU", which is not a prediction, it's a bare-faced lie.
Chippy_boy
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Or you could provide some examples of Remain campaign lies? It's starting to look like you can't actually produce any.Goodness me you just can't see it can you. I think we shall have to leave it there.
Chippy_boy
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If accusing me of lying is acceptable, then the response "fuck off, ****", is also acceptable. Seems fair.If you’re interested in lies have a look at this post of yours
And by the way, I don't lie. There's nothing I have stated on this forum EVER which has been a lie. Nothing.
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hilts
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If accusing me of lying is acceptable, then the response "fuck off, ****", is also acceptable. Seems fair.
Not an accusation the facts are there in black and white. Call me whatever you like I don’t make a fuss.
Chippy_boy
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What on earth are you talking about??? I haven't told any lies, and there's nothing there in black or white.Not an accusation the facts are there in black and white. Call me whatever you like I don’t make a fuss.
There's nothing you quoted which is untrue, let alone being a lie.
hilts
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What on earth are you talking about??? I haven't told any lies, and there's nothing there in black or white.
There's nothing you quoted which is untrue, let alone being a lie.
If you can show me:-
How you spoke personally to the whole adult population
If you can show me all pre brexit polls that showed every one had significant leads for remain
If you can show me how accurate all polls are historically
If you can post all your evidence and exact numbers that show the numbers of voters who voted leave based on lies
I will then retract. I have a feeling though you posted an opinion based on your own personal bias as facts.
Churchlawtonblue
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I sent you a link mate that detailed them. Up to you if you read it or believe them to be true lol.Or you could provide some examples of Remain campaign lies? It's starting to look like you can't actually produce any.
Ps Let me know how the breakdown in western civilisation went pls, Sorry but I must have missed that when it happened! Lol
Given that in the 90s both Major and Blair 'smelt the coffee' and decided to campaign on the basis of promising a referendum and accordingly won electoral majorities, clearly gives the lie to the suggestion that the public was clearly pro-RemainIf you can show me:-
How you spoke personally to the whole adult population
If you can show me all pre brexit polls that showed every one had significant leads for remain
If you can show me how accurate all polls are historically
If you can post all your evidence and exact numbers that show the numbers of voters who voted leave based on lies
I will then retract. I have a feeling though you posted an opinion based on your own personal bias as facts.
The usual logical fallacy. Promising a referendum (especially if both main parties are saying it) doesn't mean that determined the result. And as both parties thought a referendum would see off the rabidly anti-EU minority, because that's what the polls told them, the suggestion that the public was pro-Remain was not "given the lie".Given that in the 90s both Major and Blair 'smelt the coffee' and decided to campaign on the basis of promising a referendum and accordingly won electoral majorities, clearly gives the lie to the suggestion that the public was clearly pro-Remain
I never know whether you make these specious arguments knowing they're specious or just don't get logical arguments.