Queues outside M1 turnstiles and over the top security

[Bluearmy]

If you cast your mind back to the withdrawal of US forces from Kabul, and the 1000’s of desperate Afgans who were trying to escape and were being held back by the US army from getting into the airport, 2 suicide bombers struck outside the airport in the middle the Afghans who were being held back by the US army. 60 Afgans and 13 US troops were killed.

Other examples being the Paris Attack at the Stade se France in 2015 and of course the Arena bombing. All outside the Venue technically. Although i believe in Paris they did try to enter the stadium and were challenged by security if my memory is right and that prevented them getting inside

When they eventually get inside a stadium it will be huge news. No option but to try to prevent that…

 

[jrb]

Why do you think they ask you to open your jacket

I don’t know. Do you know?

When you’ve queued up from the back of the queue to the front of the queue, and you are about to get searched, and in the meantime you’ve been talking, laughing, and joking with your mates and with other City fans, why would a steward ask a specific person to open their coat or to take off their beanie hat? What is that person trying to hide? What does the steward think that person is trying to hide, or is going to do inside the ground to warrant a pat down, to have to open their coat, or to take their beanie hat off?

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

Big queues at M1 yesterday at 12 but I thought it was more down to dopey, slow as fuck stewards rather than any additional checks. My coat was zipped up and I wasn't asked to open it or turn out my pockets.

Different people all the time so some times (less frequently recently) it flows fairly smoothly and others like yesterday it's shite. M1 is always liable to be a problem due to the huge numbers having it as the only entrance option. Compare and contrast with M2.

 

[jrb]

Other examples being the Paris Attack at the Stade se France in 2015 and of course the Arena bombing. All outside the Venue technically. Although i believe in Paris they did try to enter the stadium and were challenged by security if my memory is right and that prevented them getting inside

When they eventually get inside a stadium it will be huge news. No option but to try to prevent that…

That is the difference. A suicide bomber will blow themselves up regardless of where they chose to do that. Given the opportunity they would rather do that inside the stadium for maximum impact. But if they know they aren’t going to get passed security they will blow themselves up outside where there are a large amount of people close by. Sadly nothing will stop a suicide bomber unless they are shot dead before they get to their intended target.

 

[grim up north]

I don’t know. Do you know?

When you’ve queued up from the back of the queue to the front of the queue, and you are about to get searched, and in the meantime you’ve been talking, laughing, and joking with your mates and with other City fans, why would a steward ask a specific person to open their coat or to take off their beanie hat? What is that person trying to hide? What does the steward think that person is trying to hide, or is going to do inside the ground to warrant a pat down, to have to open their coat, or to take their beanie hat off?

Yes I do know

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

I don’t know. Do you know?

When you’ve queued up from the back of the queue to the front of the queue, and you are about to get searched, and in the meantime you’ve been talking, laughing, and joking with your mates and with other City fans, why would a steward ask a specific person to open their coat or to take off their beanie hat? What is that person trying to hide? What does the steward think that person is trying to hide, or is going to do inside the ground to warrant a pat down, to have to open their coat, or to take their beanie hat off?

Are they trying to hide the fact they are follically challenged?

 

[bennyboy]

Never had a problem with them.
Some matches take longer than others but I have never missed a start of the game due to them.
The queue did look longer yesterday just after 12 for some reason though.

 

[jrb]

Yes I do know

I don’t.

I’ve never brought anything into the ground I shouldn’t have. Certainly not to be asked to unzip my coat, to unzip my fleece, which the steward attempted to do personally(are you serious?!), or to take my beanie hat off.

The only thing I bring into the ground every now and again in my pocket is a chunky Sony metal pocket camera which has never been picked up by a scanner. I have never been asked to take the camera out of my coat pocket.

 

[paulchapo]

It depends how they approach it. I have a young girl with a wheelchair and the new jobsworth at the turnstile yesterday was rude and obviously felt she had some power over us just mere fans. I was told by another steward that they now have a new boss who has lots of new changes in the pipeline. I won't say what he thought about it.

There we have it in a nutshell. Give somebody power over others and it often goes to their heads. Also never overlook the fact that those in power over us in this capacity could be fans of other clubs and delight in making our lives harder gaining entry. I used to know two stewards at our games who were rags.
A few years ago I had a row with one jobsworth who was losing the argument. He then came out with "If you carry on I can deny you entry by saying I don't think you're in the right frame of mind to go into the game." Fucking wankers some of them.

 

[grim up north]

I don’t. I’ve never brought anything into the ground I shouldn’t have. Certainly not to be asked to unzip my coat, my fleece, which the steward attempted to do personally, or to take my beanie hat off.

You have been talking about in your last few posts the Same reason you take your jackets, hats and Coats off at airports