Queues outside M1 turnstiles and over the top security

Invisible Man's Bandage said:
Big queues at M1 yesterday at 12 but I thought it was more down to dopey, slow as fuck stewards rather than any additional checks. My coat was zipped up and I wasn't asked to open it or turn out my pockets.

Different people all the time so some times (less frequently recently) it flows fairly smoothly and others like yesterday it's shite. M1 is always liable to be a problem due to the huge numbers having it as the only entrance option. Compare and contrast with M2.
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It’s not because N1 is also SS3. Never have any problems there. Got there at 12.10 yesterday. In 2 mins later.
 
uwerosler28 said:
I would always prefer a high level of security over ease of access for a large capacity sporting / entertainment event prime for a potentially terrorist attack.
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Problem is if someone is mad enough to blow themselves up the security at an event ultimately can’t do anything about it. Will be huge queues where the security is or when people are exiting the venues.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
It’s not because N1 is also SS3. Never have any problems there. Got there at 12.10 yesterday. In 2 mins later.
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I know that but M1 is hugely overloaded. It was poor planning right from SS3 opening and it has never been fully resolved. The club seem to put some effort into improving things for a while but then lose interest.
 
blueparrot said:
Not all terrorist attacks are bombs, there have been multiple cases ot stabbings, probably more likely than a bomb.Thing with attacks terrorist or lone wolf attacks is the timing and where they are going to happen is unpredictable. Just like people now accept going into an airport, or many tourist attractions they will have to leave time for security checks, they will have to learn it applies to large venues like football and concert venues too.
One day there will be an incident at a football and concert venue and questions will be asked why security checks weren’t thorough.
Fans need to plan getting in earlier, complaining about a pat down just seems silly.
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You’re right one day there will be and there is nothing you can do to stop someone who is mental enough to be willing to kill them selves.
 
blueparrot said:
C Not all terrorist attacks are bombs, there have been multiple cases ot stabbings, probably more likely than a bomb.Thing with attacks terrorist or lone wolf attacks is the timing and where they are going to happen is unpredictable. Just like people now accept going into an airport, or many tourist attractions they will have to leave time for security checks, they will have to learn it applies to large venues like football and concert venues too.
One day there will be an incident at a football and concert venue and questions will be asked why security checks weren’t thorough.
Fans need to plan getting in earlier, complaining about a pat down just seems silly.
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Also the club or the Premier league could have told that the security risk has heightened, hence the more stringent searches ?
 
johnnytapia said:
The dark blue box: one of life’s great footballing mysteries.

In what other line of entertainment would you have a nice dark rectangle where you’re not permitted to stand and watch whatever you’ve paid to see?

I’ve become fucking brilliant at drinking a pint, on my tiptoes, craning my neck then shuttling round to the edge of the next blue box to catch up with the action.

Went to Leipzig last year, bought a pint, stood on tiptoes holding pint at back of stand until i was told by a steward, “You can sit with your drink. In your own seat.”

Disbelief was soon followed by the dawning realisation that yes, indeed, you actually can have a pint in your seat in Germany. So I had eight more.
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OK until you get showered with beer when City score ....
 
jrb said:
The answer is for Danny Wilson or whoever is in charge of stewarding at City to sit down with Showsec and to discuss and to review to what extent these physical and personal searches need to happen. Because when stewards are physically patting you down and touching you, that shouldn’t happen or be allowed by City. If a steward wants to wand you, fair enough.

I refused to allow a steward to pat me down. He asked me to open my jacket. (in Winter) I asked him why I should do that. So I can pat you down. I’m not letting you do that. You aren’t touching me. He looked at me. Said nothing. And just wanded me.

I would urge anyone to refuse to be patted down by a steward. If a Showsec or City steward insists on patting you down ask to speak to a steward supervisor. There are 10,000’s of City fans who do not get patted down every home match, so why should any City fan be singled out for no reason to be patted down? They shouldn’t.
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If it was a female.steward you wouldn't object ;)
 
Hes the left back remember said:
Yesterday going in
Steward (loosely termed) “can you open your coat”
Me “Why”
Steward “so I can see if you have anything you shouldn’t “
Me “ Well I haven’t “
Steward “ ok “
And then went in.
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jrb said:
The answer is for Danny Wilson or whoever is in charge of stewarding at City to sit down with Showsec and to discuss and to review to what extent these physical and personal searches need to happen. Because when stewards are physically patting you down and touching you, that shouldn’t happen or be allowed by City. If a steward wants to wand you, fair enough.

I refused to allow a steward to pat me down. He asked me to open my jacket. (in Winter) I asked him why I should do that. So I can pat you down. I’m not letting you do that. You aren’t touching me. He looked at me. Said nothing. And just wanded me.

I would urge anyone to refuse to be patted down by a steward. If a Showsec or City steward insists on patting you down ask to speak to a steward supervisor. There are 10,000’s of City fans who do not get patted down every home match, so why should any City fan be singled out for no reason to be patted down? They shouldn’t.
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Probably why there are queues when people are being awkward and trying to argue. What’s the issue with just opening your coat or taking your hat off? If anything was ever to happen the same people moaning about over zealous security would be saying there should be more stringent checks.

Unfortunately this is the world we live in and it’s not just isolated to getting into the Etihad.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Probably why there are queues when people are being awkward and trying to argue. What’s the issue with just opening your coat or taking your hat off? If anything was ever to happen the same people moaning about over zealous security would be saying there should be more stringent checks.

Unfortunately this is the world we live in and it’s not just isolated to getting into the Etihad.
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You want elderly people to open their coat and other warm clothing underneath when it's freezing and launching it down?

Fuck that.
 
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