Queues

crystal_mais said:
There is a reason they want you there early so they can carry out the relevant searches and ensure you get in before kick off. The country is on alert to threats and Football stadiums can be perceived as a major target. I'd rather they search us properly than some loons getting in and causing harm.

It is difficult for some of us on Evenings, but people were still in the boozers with 15mins to go before kick off.

I think we need to get used to it and potentially alter our behaviours.
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I think you'll find changing our behavour and being in fear of our normal routine is part if a terrorists plan, also these measures ain't common practise at other grounds.

For me it's partly a hightened sense of security and also in the clubs eyes a benefit to have us inside as early as possible spending our money in their bars/food outletsand in the council and polices eyes of benefit to have us in early rather than in the local pubs.
 
crystal_mais said:
There is a reason they want you there early so they can carry out the relevant searches and ensure you get in before kick off. The country is on alert to threats and Football stadiums can be perceived as a major target. I'd rather they search us properly than some loons getting in and causing harm.

It is difficult for some of us on Evenings, but people were still in the boozers with 15mins to go before kick off.

I think we need to get used to it and potentially alter our behaviours.
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The huge queues are UNSAFE! god forbid someone actually has a bomb and is outside the south stand, It would probably take out more than if it got in the ground. The whole process is a nonsense unless they have enough staff doing the searching and getting everyone in the ground quickly.
 
Surely it can't be just a ploy to get us all in the ground early so we spend our meagre earnings on their crap refreshments? My goodness...

If other clubs aren't doing this then neither should we.
 
Gordyola said:
Exactly the case, the only way to do a proper search is an airport type check otherwise its a farce. For example they allow flasks which are not checked for contents
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Bloody good job ours used to be full of Bailey's coffee, used to stink the family stand out :+)
 
My mate's been going since 1953, he's 73 now and has been to well over a thousand games. Last night was the FIRST time he has ever missed a kick off in all that time! It was a collection of the Didsbury Blues bus being late and the ridiculous queues outside the ground. He's gutted his record's been broken
 
crystal_mais said:
There is a reason they want you there early so they can carry out the relevant searches and ensure you get in before kick off. The country is on alert to threats and Football stadiums can be perceived as a major target. I'd rather they search us properly than some loons getting in and causing harm.
It is difficult for some of us on Evenings, but people were still in the boozers with 15mins to go before kick off.
I think we need to get used to it and potentially alter our behaviours.
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This will be why we see similar long queues at away games. Or perhaps not.
 
I went towards the steward last night, there was a woman walked alongside of me carrying a large silver metal flask, being a gentleman I simply said 'after you'. I meant she could go first to be searched (the flask at least) She walked straight past the steward without a second glance. He never batted an eyelid.
OK men should not frisk women but when they are holding a large metal flask/pipe bomb you would think she would be spoken to. The whole thing is a charade and pointless. I dont care if people say our owners make us a target or look what happened in Paris, the simple fact is the stewards are going through the motions and it causing unneccasary delays for normal decent hard working fans.

City please stop this bad joke.
 
Blue Mist said:
I went towards the steward last night, there was a woman walked alongside of me carrying a large silver metal flask, being a gentleman I simply said 'after you'. I meant she could go first to be searched (the flask at least) She walked straight past the steward without a second glance. He never batted an eyelid.
OK men should not frisk women but when they are holding a large metal flask/pipe bomb you would think she would be spoken to. The whole thing is a charade and pointless. I dont care if people say our owners make us a target or look what happened in Paris, the simple fact is the stewards are going through the motions and it causing unneccasary delays for normal decent hard working fans.

City please stop this bad joke.
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This post is spot on. Not only are they going through the motions they are actually
putting us at risk in these queues by making us targets.
 
peoffrey said:
Surely it can't be just a ploy to get us all in the ground early so we spend our meagre earnings on their crap refreshments? My goodness...

If other clubs aren't doing this then neither should we.
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That's plainly stupid, if there is a credible threat the club owe it to us to take action to minimise the problem.
 
Blue Mist said:
I went towards the steward last night, there was a woman walked alongside of me carrying a large silver metal flask, being a gentleman I simply said 'after you'. I meant she could go first to be searched (the flask at least) She walked straight past the steward without a second glance. He never batted an eyelid.
OK men should not frisk women but when they are holding a large metal flask/pipe bomb you would think she would be spoken to. The whole thing is a charade and pointless. I dont care if people say our owners make us a target or look what happened in Paris, the simple fact is the stewards are going through the motions and it causing unneccasary delays for normal decent hard working fans.

City please stop this bad joke.
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Iv been saying this since they started all this earlier in the season,its a joke,,,,every single game ,my 9 year old goes in front of me into the south stand entrance N1,with his bag of crisps Fanta,my pie etc,and not 1 time has he been searched or had his bag looked into etc,but Iv been stopped and frisked/scanned about 7-8 times this season..something is going on ,but it doesn't add up...
 
crystal_mais said:
There is a reason they want you there early so they can carry out the relevant searches and ensure you get in before kick off. The country is on alert to threats and Football stadiums can be perceived as a major target. I'd rather they search us properly than some loons getting in and causing harm.

It is difficult for some of us on Evenings, but people were still in the boozers with 15mins to go before kick off.

I think we need to get used to it and potentially alter our behaviours.
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The thing is, no one is getting searched most of the time. They have a very quick look in any bags, that's it.
 
My points on this are -
I understand why they need to do it.
They need to get a better process as to How they do it.
We need to also try and change slightly to help them too.

Doesn't affect me - I tend to be in the ground an hour before as my son likes to watch the warm ups etc -

But what is key to me is that I goto football to watch a City match, I want to make sure I get home safe, sound and alive after the match... If the additional security is to aid this then I'm all for it.
 
crystal_mais said:
But what is key to me is that I goto football to watch a City match, I want to make sure I get home safe, sound and alive after the match... If the additional security is to aid this then I'm all for it.
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Don't know how security checks at the turnstiles made your journey to and from the ground any safer ?
 
crystal_mais said:
But what is key to me is that I goto football to watch a City match, I want to make sure I get home safe, sound and alive after the match... If the additional security is to aid this then I'm all for it.
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Me too 100%

but the point is they are not doing these checks properly or serious enough imo,a few home games this season Iv got a taxi down late by about 5-10 minutes and just been allowed through with zero checks ,only to be told how bad it was for people going in before I turned up late.something is odd about all this,i believe the club have info but cannot say anything ,but have beefed security up as opposed to previous seasons as a sign that we're not neglecting security even though its a joke....
 
crystal_mais said:
Well if we want to be extremely pedantic about it - I would like to enjoy the match safely

The rest is no different to any journey I make on on a daily basis -
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So why should going to the match be any different , I don't feel any safer or unsafe now then what I did last season or the the seasons before .
 
blue44 said:
Me too 100%

but the point is they are not doing these checks properly or serious enough imo,a few home games this season Iv got a taxi down late by about 5-10 minutes and just been allowed through with zero checks ,only to be told how bad it was for people going in before I turned up late.something is odd about all this,i believe the club have info but cannot say anything ,but have beefed security up as opposed to previous seasons as a sign that we're not neglecting security even though its a joke....
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Agreed - I personally think its shambolic how they are doing this. There needs to be a proper plan and the right people hired to do it.
 
kev20971 said:
So why should going to the match be any different , I don't feel any safer or unsafe now then what I did last season or the the seasons before .
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Then you obviously haven't read some of the reasons - They started to get tighter first vs Liverpool last year. That was straight after some loon let a bomb off outside the Paris stadium.


The Govt have warned all football clubs of the risk..The problem City have is they may be able to stop some idiot going in by doing these checks - but it won't stop an idiot with AK47 deciding to spray a load of bullets at people in waiting.

Nothing wrong with searches but it needs to be planned and co-ordinated properly. The RAGs have recruited specialist terrorism security experts to help them- I'm assuming we are using the numpty security company we have.
 
Nothing wrong with searches but it needs to be planned and co-ordinated properly. The RAGs have recruited specialist terrorism security experts to help them- I'm assuming we are using the numpty security company we have.[/QUOTE]
Would they be the counter terrorism experts that left a parcel in the bogs????
 
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