Quitting work on the spot

[Barcon]

A few years back! Mate, I hate to break it to you but that was over a decade ago, you’ve been on here too long ;)

Defo not the same guy… that guy was a drug dealer who stood near my uni campus. Gave off the same vibe though.

That still makes me want to get on a plane and choke him.
I might need to talk to somebody about that.
; )

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

If you have any actual evidence I would take it to the board of directors as it sounds like this guy isn't CEO material, and might actually be detrimental to productivity.

Also consider constructive dismissal.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

I walked out on a job with an IT consultancy once, many years ago. I suffered a campaign of harassment and I'd been talking to my old company about going back. However nothing was signed so it was a risk, particularly with a new baby and 3-year-old to support. Fortunately things worked out but it was scary for a month or so.

I left that company about 7 years later when the IT Director did something disrespectful. What I didn't know was that she was under threat as she'd fucked up a major contract by committing the company to pay cash for hardware rather than doing it on finance. Had I made a formal complaint I'd have probably won, but in hindsight it was the right time to leave.

So I'd go down the formal grievance route first, because he may not have the confidence of his superiors. I had to laugh as when you mentioned you were in consulting, I had a feeling it might have been an old boss of mine, but he's now retired. He could be a nightmare, particularly if he'd had a drink. Eventually he got chucked out of a top four consultancy after embarrassing himself and others in front of the whole division.

You don't know if he's being a dick because he feels under pressure and is losing it, and a complaint might be the final straw for his dismissal. If that isn't satisfactory then walk and look at a constructive dismissal claim, but that can be hard to demonstrate. Definitely keep a record of what you consider to be his unreasonable behaviour.

If you're in IT consultancy, the market isn't brilliant currently as all the big companies are making cuts, but things may look different by Easter next year. If you can negotiate a Termination agreement then you might get your payoff tax free, which would help. But go to HR first.

It’s management consulting, but I bounce between a few of their specialist divisions in IT and Operations. Those areas are very mixed at the moment, like you say a lot of companies doing badly but not all. Unfortunately, I doubt he’s under too much pressure right now as the company is performing well… though would say that’s in spite of him, not because of him. We have a lot of very talented people pulling rabbits out of hats.

Think I will go down the grievance route, just in case it happens to help others having the same issue with him. If everybody stays silent then he gets away with it. Going to keep the professionalism though, that’s more my style than Vaseline on his windscreen or banging frozen sausages into his garden, as tempting as that is…

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

When people say 'consulting'. What do they mean?

Here’s a free online course for you:

 

[Slipper One]

This is wear Trade Unions are a godsend.
To the OP, if you’re in a Union, get using them. If you’re not in a Union, get joining one.

I'm not so sure of that Johnnytapia.

In my experience of unions, they of course have their benefits, but are usually support the doggers and SkyBluFlux doesn't seem like one of those.

 

[Slipper One]

It’s management consulting, but I bounce between a few of their specialist divisions in IT and Operations. Those areas are very mixed at the moment, like you say a lot of companies doing badly but not all. Unfortunately, I doubt he’s under too much pressure right now as the company is performing well… though would say that’s in spite of him, not because of him. We have a lot of very talented people pulling rabbits out of hats.

Think I will go down the grievance route, just in case it happens to help others having the same issue with him. If everybody stays silent then he gets away with it. Going to keep the professionalism though, that’s more my style than Vaseline on his windscreen or

It’s management consulting, but I bounce between a few of their specialist divisions in IT and Operations. Those areas are very mixed at the moment, like you say a lot of companies doing badly but not all. Unfortunately, I doubt he’s under too much pressure right now as the company is performing well… though would say that’s in spite of him, not because of him. We have a lot of very talented people pulling rabbits out of hats.

Think I will go down the grievance route, just in case it happens to help others having the same issue with him. If everybody stays silent then he gets away with it. Going to keep the professionalism though, that’s more my style than Vaseline on his windscreen or banging frozen sausages into his garden, as tempting as that is…

If you want my advice, for what it's worth.

The 'mental illness/stress' card is an option, but it depends on you, it's not something I'd consider.

The HR is, but whatever, I'd be inclined to make sure everything is down in writing regarding this grievance.

Regardless of how you feel, stick to the higher ground and DON'T burn any bridges, no matter how satisfying it would be, but I don't think you will anyway.

Don't worry about colleagues, just yourself and what is best for you.

Not knowing you and all the details, my feeling is to suggest you, regardless of how difficult or uncomfortable it is, continue going through the motions at work and with HR, but secure a new employment position before jumping ship.

The real point I would make to you is..........what does your gut feeling tell you and go with that?

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[Ashton Moss Messi]

Gov website:

Constructive dismissal​

Constructive dismissal is when you’re forced to leave your job against your will because of your employer’s conduct.

The reasons you leave your job must be serious, for example, they:

• do not pay you or suddenly demote you for no reason
• force you to accept unreasonable changes to how you work - for example, tell you to work night shifts when your contract is only for day work
• let other employees harass or bully you

Your employer’s breach of contract may be one serious incident or a series of incidents that are serious when taken together.

You should try and sort any issues out by speaking to your employer to solve the dispute.

If you do have a case for constructive dismissal, you should leave your job immediately - your employer may argue that, by staying, you accepted the conduct or treatment.



Harass or bully is your angle.
Make some notes of examples of bullying and get other people to support you if possible.
Take it to HR to get it on record - if there's following bullying behaviour make sure they know immediately and if necessary tell them you will be seeking legal advice about constructive dismissal and leave immediately.
Note the key last point about acceptance because you stay.
It doesn't matter if it's the CEO he/she answers to someone.

And sometimes you just have to back yourself and your abilities.

 

[Coatigan]

Wait. Are we all, on this thread, technically in consulting now?

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Wait. Are we all, on this thread, technically in consulting now?

I would reply properly to this but I'm just about to catch a plane to see Stefan Strauss and the gang in Frankfwort.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

The day before I quit my last job, I didn’t bother going in. I was agency and they rang to ask where I was. I came out with “I can’t face going in” and the reaction was deep concern. My own line manager wasn’t in the next day but two others both approached me to say they were available for a chat at anytime.

Mental health no longer has the stigma it used to. Especially with men. I had a breakdown in 2020 which was about fifteen years overdue. I was placed on leave, then furlough, for four months before given just basic duties when I came back. Everyone all over me too.