R.I.P Middle England

[r.soleofsalford]

the money we would of paid for the coal would have stayed in our system, people would of been paying taxes instead of draw state benefits and getting called like fuck by the likes of you for being thrown out of work. the wages would in the main been spread about the local community allowing other to pay yet more taxes. the imported coal meant exported money.

there was terrible manipulation of the financial fact to enable the Tories to fool the general public through their media so as to enable the closures with less problems than there should have been.

i take it, this free market survival of the fittest includes our financial institutions and the fat cats that have profited yet again from our country`s financial collapse. which of course they themselves were largely responsible for

exactly.so the coal was cheaper coming in from China or Poland.Lets give the money to those countries whilst totally destroying whole comunities in south wales,notts,yorkshire etc etc.then people complain about there being feral youths and lack of comunity spirit.well done Mrs Thatcher.that was a really great idea.Don't suppose she'll be that bothered living in that nice mansion of hers

i though i was the only sane one on here welcome ;)

 

[Damocles]

What does work to rule mean?

 

[BingoBango]

What does work to rule mean?

Doing only the minimum required by your contract - no overtime, following rules and regulations to pedantic detail to the point of a go-slow, not replying to emails or answering phones, that sort of thing.

 

[Stanley]

I saw the Miner strike as a war on the unions. It was the miners that copped for it because they stuck their heads up first. The unions were crippling the country and had to go, I'm just sorry it was the miners.

for the last 25 years i have run my own business for the 16 years before i was a member of the nga as was. it was the national graphic association. which of course was a big union in the printing industry in general and the newspaper ind.

i remember the stand up argument with in our chapel as people felt incensed enough to want to work to rule (once in 16 year i might add). the argument that followed people for and against . the vast majority as with us all are pushed by self interest. eg, mortgages to pay car loans holiday etc etc loss of overtime or wages. in other words it an urban myth that people were prepared to come out on strike or work to rule at the drop of the the proverbial hat.

yet people read the rag tops and believe human nature to be something its not. it baffles me how easily duped by the press some people are.

My experience of unions was somewhat different.

My very first job was repairing computers and peripherals for a small company. My first trip to a customer site was a large chemicals company on the Mersey estuary. I booked in got taken to the thing that needed fixing and set about it. i was working on my own in a sort of lab place. After about 10 mins the door open and in walk 3 blokes, first one belts me across the back of the head, second one sticks a screw driver in the pc. and the third one stands and watches. I'm told that the union says I can't do what I'm doing and have to leave.

I get a couple of further digs as I'm escorted off the site, and the bollocking I got of the boss was great on top.

So your experience of unions differes somewhat from mine. And as you can see no ragtops or duped in sight. It baffles me how blinkered some people are.

So unions can all die for me.

 

[Damocles]

What does work to rule mean?

Doing only the minimum required by your contract - no overtime, following rules and regulations to pedantic detail to the point of a go-slow, not replying to emails or answering phones, that sort of thing.

So are the council permanently on work to rule then?

 

[r.soleofsalford]

What does work to rule mean?

you work to the agreement you have on your contract for example printers do fitters task to make things easier. stop any voluntary overtime to show there dissatisfaction and there feelings about points of disagreement with management, only saw this once in 16 years

and the nga was said by the press to be militant laughable real if people had only seen in our chapel when the foc (print shopsteward) tried to get people to bend to his ways

 

[r.soleofsalford]

for the last 25 years i have run my own business for the 16 years before i was a member of the nga as was. it was the national graphic association. which of course was a big union in the printing industry in general and the newspaper ind.

i remember the stand up argument with in our chapel as people felt incensed enough to want to work to rule (once in 16 year i might add). the argument that followed people for and against . the vast majority as with us all are pushed by self interest. eg, mortgages to pay car loans holiday etc etc loss of overtime or wages. in other words it an urban myth that people were prepared to come out on strike or work to rule at the drop of the the proverbial hat.

yet people read the rag tops and believe human nature to be something its not. it baffles me how easily duped by the press some people are.

My experience of unions was somewhat different.

My very first job was repairing computers and peripherals for a small company. My first trip to a customer site was a large chemicals company on the Mersey estuary. I booked in got taken to the thing that needed fixing and set about it. i was working on my own in a sort of lab place. After about 10 mins the door open and in walk 3 blokes, first one belts me across the back of the head, second one sticks a screw driver in the pc. and the third one stands and watches. I'm told that the union says I can't do what I'm doing and have to leave.

I get a couple of further digs as I'm escorted off the site, and the bollocking I got of the boss was great on top.

So your experience of unions differes somewhat from mine. And as you can see no ragtops or duped in sight. It baffles me how blinkered some people are.

So unions can all die for me.

listen not that i want to insult you, but this said this might just have happened to someone. who am i to say it didnt happen to you, but am i the only one to think this sounds little far fetched, did one turn round to the other and say errol feed him to the pigs ;)

 

[sam221985]

Bottom line - almost every negative aspect of British life is the legacy of Thatcher and her governments.

 

[salfordtrueblue]

What does work to rule mean?

you work to the agreement you have on your contract for example printers do fitters task to make things easier. stop any voluntary overtime to show there dissatisfaction and there feelings about points of disagreement with management, only saw this once in 16 years

and the nga was said by the press to be militant laughable real if people had only seen in our chapel when the foc (print shopsteward) tried to get people to bend to his ways

Fraternal greetings brother,ex sogat member here (gpmu) ex deputy FOC, where you involved in the BPIF agreement ?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

I think this country went to the dogs when ignorant twats couldn't tell the difference between apposed and opposed.