Race and the death penalty in the US.

"However, although racial minorities comprise half of all murder victims nationwide, a far greater proportion (77%) of the victims in capital convictions were white. The racial identity of the murder victim is thus a leading factor in determining who receives a death sentence in America."

FFs, this is some twisted bullshit. The CRIME is the leading factor in who receives the death penalty. The author really stretches it here, probably because that's stats dont substantiate his claims. For instance, there are more whites on deathrow in the US than nonwhites, and many of those white victims were killed by whites. He conveniently skips over that.
 
Happy Feet said:
didactic said:
Happy Feet said:
Obama is president.

And what does that have to do with anything?. Obama comes from an upperclass family and went to Ivy League schools that start at the $200 000 a year region. He is also HALF Jewish white from his mothers side.

Why do people use the Obama card like it is some sort of proof America is not racist?.
Just saying that people who are not white can still acheive in the U S A

No shit sherlock!<br /><br />-- Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:11 pm --<br /><br />
prairiemoon said:
"However, although racial minorities comprise half of all murder victims nationwide, a far greater proportion (77%) of the victims in capital convictions were white. The racial identity of the murder victim is thus a leading factor in determining who receives a death sentence in America."

FFs, this is some twisted bullshit. The CRIME is the leading factor in who receives the death penalty. The author really stretches it here, probably because that's stats dont substantiate his claims. For instance, there are more whites on deathrow in the US than nonwhites, and many of those white victims were killed by whites. He conveniently skips over that.

I would take it back one step and abolish the death penalty. Europe has done it and so should every country in the world.
 
prairiemoon said:
"However, although racial minorities comprise half of all murder victims nationwide, a far greater proportion (77%) of the victims in capital convictions were white. The racial identity of the murder victim is thus a leading factor in determining who receives a death sentence in America."

FFs, this is some twisted bullshit. The CRIME is the leading factor in who receives the death penalty. The author really stretches it here, probably because that's stats dont substantiate his claims. For instance, there are more whites on deathrow in the US than nonwhites, and many of those white victims were killed by whites. He conveniently skips over that.


The scant disregard the author of the article has for the victims beggars belief.
 
didactic said:
prairiemoon said:
No. The three strikes deal cannot be applied to "petty" crimes, or misdemeanors. It applies to aggravated felony convictions and to the best of my knowledge only exists in California.

No and no. And selling drugs is a felony. Carry a weapon felony but white criminals get less charges for same crimes. This needs you to research first and then come back and debate because the evidence is there. I hate this discussion because it just ends with showing without a doubt how corrupt and racist the American courts of law are.
I'm not debating discrimination, I know it exists in all legal systems. But my points about 3x are correct. There is no federal 3x, although many states do have habitual offender laws, but they are applied to serious violent crimes, nothing "petty" as you put it.
 
Is bias or do black people commit more crimes? That's not being racist, I'm just asking a question. If more whites committed crime then wouldn't there be more whites on death row? If more blacks do commit crime, then the government need to address the social issues regarding ethnic minorities and their risks of crime.

A black reporter is bias against it. Do people want anti-positive discrimination where America kills more whites to make people happy? Why are they arguing against it by using racial discrimination? Why not argue against the death penalty as a whole, surely that would be a better argument.it seems the reporter accepts the death penalty but wants more white people killed too.

Typical Americans.
 
The statistic is something like 49% of murders last year were committed by blacks, but that's misleading because it only counts convictions. Still though, 13% of the US population is black. So 49% of convictions seems disproportionately high. I do not mean to imply that they were unjustly convicted however, just perhaps more likely to be caught.
 
Nowhere in the article does it show any like for like cases where a black man was sentenced to death while a white man got life or less.
I understand no two cases are exactly the same but there are some with similarities.

This article fails badly. The statistics can easily be manipulated to his own affect. You can only judge this on a case by case way.
 
prairiemoon said:
Ridiculous article. Don't you all feel so smug.

much more intelligent responses in the comments.

You mean like this one? (first up)

Death row vs. U.S. population by race
Percent of death row that is African-American: 42.9%
Percent of U.S. that is African-American: 12.8%
Percent of death row that is White: 55.0%
Percent of U.S. that is White: 82.2%
Percent of death row that is Hispanic: 11.2%
Percent of U.S. that is Hispanic: 11.8%
Percent of death row that is Native American: 0.8%
Percent of U.S. that is Native American: 0.9%
Percent of death row that is Asian: 0.9%
Percent of U.S. that is Asian: 4.1%

So according to this comment, the US has a population percentage of all races equaling of 112.4%........
 
PJMCC1UK said:
Nowhere in the article does it show any like for like cases where a black man was sentenced to death while a white man got life or less.
I understand no two cases are exactly the same but there are some with similarities.

This article fails badly. The statistics can easily be manipulated to his own affect. You can only judge this on a case by case way.

And the one thing about the death penalty is that there is no chance of an innocent person being freed.

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is not the same thing.
 
pauldominic said:
PJMCC1UK said:
Nowhere in the article does it show any like for like cases where a black man was sentenced to death while a white man got life or less.
I understand no two cases are exactly the same but there are some with similarities.

This article fails badly. The statistics can easily be manipulated to his own affect. You can only judge this on a case by case way.

And the one thing about the death penalty is that there is no chance of an innocent person being freed.

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is not the same thing.

Not true

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