Racism in Football

River Plate said:
To me there's a huge difference between ignorantly having discriminatory actions (which absolutely all of us have had at some point of our lives) vs being a true bigot.

Nowadays, the true bigots are probably the most PC of all. They will never say anything out of place in public but in their privacy be the biggest pieces of sh*t.
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Remember what Bernardo went through after a 'joke' with his best friend Mendy
 
Vialli98 said:
It was also transphobic and homophobic as well as racist, and this chant has been in existence since 2022, so I’m afraid ignorance is not enough of an excuse. I also don’t buy the anti colonial argument because they specifically targeted the black French players with no mention of Griezmann, the Hernandez brothers, Giroud etc who have Spanish, Italian and German heritage.
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Of course they didn't target the Italian, and especially, the German players.

There were hundreds of thousands of German immigrants in Argentina during WWII. The nation stayed neutral during the war because of this fact. Juan Peròn gave a secret order for Argentine diplomats and intelligence operatives in Europe to establish escape routes, aka "ratlines" for SS (the worst of the worst, real "true believers" ) officers and Nazi Party officials to Argentina. The routes were through Spain and Italy. The Catholic Church, and Red Cross, were complicit in these acts.

Some names you may recognize who were aided to escape by and allowed to settle in Argentina were Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele and Walter Rauff. Rauff isn't as well known but he invented mobile gas chambers, gas vans. This way they could just gas Jews, and others on the spot then start up the van and move to a different location to gas more. Rauff didn't actually settle in Argentina but was allowed to enter through Argentina before moving to Ecuador. Mengele lived there for a time, UNDER HIS REAL NAME, before emigrating with Simon Wiesenthal on his heels.

Martin Bormann, Hitler's chief assistant, is rumored to have died in Berlin. HOWEVER, a former Argentine Ambassador to Israel, Dr. Gregario Topolevsky, said Bormann was living in Argentina after the war but fled to Brazil when he heard about Eichmann's capture by the Mossad. According to Topolevsky, Argentine officials knew.Bormann was in Argentina.

Before you use moral relativism or "Yeah but, what about xyz country..." my wife and children are Jews. Many countries after the war didn't make an effort to take in the worst of the worst and if they found any within their borders they dealt with them.

Edit: @Vialli98 the last paragraph wasnt meant for you. It was directed to the inevitable response from our "friend" who will excuse any bad behaviours with "reasons."
 
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better dead than red said:
There were hundreds of thousands of German immigrants in Argentina during WWII. The nation stayed neutral during the war because of this fact. Juan Peròn gave a secret order for Argentine diplomats and intelligence operatives in Europe to establish escape routes, aka "ratlines" for SS (the worst of the worst, real "true believers" ) officers and Nazi Party officials to Argentina. The routes were through Spain and Italy. The Catholic Church, and Red Cross, were complicit in these acts.

Some names you may recognize who were aided to escape by and allowed to settle in Argentina were Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele and Walter Rauff. Rauff isn't as well known but he invented mobile gas chambers, gas vans. This way they could just gas Jews, and others on the spot then start up the van and move to a different location to gas more. Rauff didn't actually settle in Argentina but was allowed to enter through Argentina before moving to Ecuador. Mengele lived there for a time, UNDER HIS REAL NAME, before emigrating with Simon Wiesenthal on his heels.

Martin Bormann, Hitler's chief assistant, is rumored to have died in Berlin. HOWEVER, a former Argentine Ambassador to Israel, Dr. Gregario Topolevsky, said Bormann was living in Argentina after the war but fled to Brazil when he heard about Eichmann's capture by the Mossad. According to Topolevsky, Argentine officials knew.Bormann was in Argentina.

Before you use moral relativism or "Yeah but, what about xyz country..." my wife and children are Jews. Many countries after the war didn't make an effort to take in the worst of the worst and if they found any within their borders they dealt with them.

Edit: @Vialli98 the last paragraph wasnt meant for you. It was directed to the inevitable response from our "friend" who will excuse any bad behaviours with "reasons."
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I have distant family in Argentina, they went there to avoid the Nazis. Facepalm
 
better dead than red said:
Of course they didn't target the Italian, and especially, the German players.

There were hundreds of thousands of German immigrants in Argentina during WWII. The nation stayed neutral during the war because of this fact. Juan Peròn gave a secret order for Argentine diplomats and intelligence operatives in Europe to establish escape routes, aka "ratlines" for SS (the worst of the worst, real "true believers" ) officers and Nazi Party officials to Argentina. The routes were through Spain and Italy. The Catholic Church, and Red Cross, were complicit in these acts.

Some names you may recognize who were aided to escape by and allowed to settle in Argentina were Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele and Walter Rauff. Rauff isn't as well known but he invented mobile gas chambers, gas vans. This way they could just gas Jews, and others on the spot then start up the van and move to a different location to gas more. Rauff didn't actually settle in Argentina but was allowed to enter through Argentina before moving to Ecuador. Mengele lived there for a time, UNDER HIS REAL NAME, before emigrating with Simon Wiesenthal on his heels.

Martin Bormann, Hitler's chief assistant, is rumored to have died in Berlin. HOWEVER, a former Argentine Ambassador to Israel, Dr. Gregario Topolevsky, said Bormann was living in Argentina after the war but fled to Brazil when he heard about Eichmann's capture by the Mossad. According to Topolevsky, Argentine officials knew.Bormann was in Argentina.

Before you use moral relativism or "Yeah but, what about xyz country..." my wife and children are Jews. Many countries after the war didn't make an effort to take in the worst of the worst and if they found any within their borders they dealt with them.

Edit: @Vialli98 the last paragraph wasnt meant for you. It was directed to the inevitable response from our "friend" who will excuse any bad behaviours with "reasons."
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That's a bunch of unproven conspiracy theorism but for the sake of argument, let's say it's all true. What does the Argentinian people have to do with the decision of a few folks in power?
 
better dead than red said:
Of course they didn't target the Italian, and especially, the German players.

There were hundreds of thousands of German immigrants in Argentina during WWII. The nation stayed neutral during the war because of this fact. Juan Peròn gave a secret order for Argentine diplomats and intelligence operatives in Europe to establish escape routes, aka "ratlines" for SS (the worst of the worst, real "true believers" ) officers and Nazi Party officials to Argentina. The routes were through Spain and Italy. The Catholic Church, and Red Cross, were complicit in these acts.

Some names you may recognize who were aided to escape by and allowed to settle in Argentina were Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele and Walter Rauff. Rauff isn't as well known but he invented mobile gas chambers, gas vans. This way they could just gas Jews, and others on the spot then start up the van and move to a different location to gas more. Rauff didn't actually settle in Argentina but was allowed to enter through Argentina before moving to Ecuador. Mengele lived there for a time, UNDER HIS REAL NAME, before emigrating with Simon Wiesenthal on his heels.

Martin Bormann, Hitler's chief assistant, is rumored to have died in Berlin. HOWEVER, a former Argentine Ambassador to Israel, Dr. Gregario Topolevsky, said Bormann was living in Argentina after the war but fled to Brazil when he heard about Eichmann's capture by the Mossad. According to Topolevsky, Argentine officials knew.Bormann was in Argentina.

Before you use moral relativism or "Yeah but, what about xyz country..." my wife and children are Jews. Many countries after the war didn't make an effort to take in the worst of the worst and if they found any within their borders they dealt with them.

Edit: @Vialli98 the last paragraph wasnt meant for you. It was directed to the inevitable response from our "friend" who will excuse any bad behaviours with "reasons."
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Martin Bormann died in 1945 in Berlin, It was confirmed in 1998 by DNA tests on the body found in 1973.
 
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