RB Leipzig (H) | Post Match Thread

[Pingu the Penguin]

Well perhaps he should shut his cake hole & concentrate on spending more time with his family... \0/

Oh agree

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

I don't know what it means, but i like it

You are nearly Dick Emery, and I claim four of the five pounds.

 

[BufordUSABlue]

I sort of prefer the handball rule as interpreted in Europe, truth be told. None of this "spirit of the law" or "intentional/unintentional" mind reading phenomenology. If your arms are up in a weird shape and the ball touches below your sleeve it's a handball.

Having joined 'the dark side' after i finished playing here. Handball was probably the most difficult and without doubt the most contentious decision I had to make every game. I went to a few referee's symposiums and this was always a lively topic! If a ball hits a players hand, its handball..... until you factor in, "Intentional or unintentional" and then, as you say, we are in the realms of reading a players mind.
I don't know what the answer is unfortunately, but I don't recall this much controversy back in the day, playing mostly amateur football, it was simply down to the ref who gave it or he didn't. Not sure watching a replay of the incident 12 times helps the decision.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

Dion Dublins post match report was slightly less upbeat than a suicide note

Whereas imagine the sickeningly triumphant hubris that would have belched forth if this had been a red.

(In Martin Tyler wank mode voice)
'They know how to win - because that's the hallmark of true champions!'

 

[Millo]

Great result, we were superb.
The game had a good tempo to it, with none of the slow sideways and backwards passing of late. We moved it forward a lot quicker.
Haaland outstanding, and KDB back to basics with a bang! Even Gundo managed to get a shot on target.

 

[HelloCity]

Goals change the course of games, and when the first two goals are dubious, it's going to affect how the rest of the match plays out. If Leipzig could've kept a clean sheet until the break and Ederson had been shown the red card, who knows what might have happened.

Let me make this clear: City are a WAY better team. They are going to win this fixture 99 out 100 times, especially at the Etihad. But they shouldn't have received those favors from the referee. Leipzig were denied any real shot at this game because of him.

We saw how Milan and Inter went through by digging in and playing ultra defensively (albeit against worse teams). Had a similar referee been in charge of their games, they wouldn't have had a chance.
Such refereeing performances bring the game into a state of disrepute. I don't think it's in City's best interest to win like this either.

In short: Congrats on your advancement. Massive performance. But I don't want to hear you guys ever complain about refs again.

Remember when you thought you were going to beat us and then, even with a free goal you got from the ref, we ended up beating you quite comfortably? Good times.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Exactly, his brainfarts are becoming more and more commonplace

It's nothing that can't be corrected, but it needs to be brought under a bit of control imo.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Imagine being in the “ashburton army”

ooof

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Actually, I'm pretty sure this guy is an American.

Is it Troopz? Ya dizzy blud

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Having joined 'the dark side' after i finished playing here. Handball was probably the most difficult and without doubt the most contentious decision I had to make every game. I went to a few referee's symposiums and this was always a lively topic! If a ball hits a players hand, its handball..... until you factor in, "Intentional or unintentional" and then, as you say, we are in the realms of reading a players mind.
I don't know what the answer is unfortunately, but I don't recall this much controversy back in the day, playing mostly amateur football, it was simply down to the ref who gave it or he didn't. Not sure watching a replay of the incident 12 times helps the decision.

All of this is a consequence of VAR which as you is a consequence of improved TV coverage in the 90s. I don't mind the old interpretation either (did it look bad, was it obvious, did it seriously impact attacking play or the direction of the ball), but you can't do that with VAR. For what it's worth, I had no clue what was given in the ground last night and the ref would never have seen it in real time. But as I point out a lot, these rules were created for Victorian school boys having a kick around trying to differentiate how their playground game was different to one down the road: they weren't designed for 8k 120fps cameras from a dozen angles otherwise you'd never create something as vague as "hand ball".