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[Anonymous]

Having the lower levels brim full by design will present a much better image to TV cameras

I can't believe that any real football supporter would give a flying fuck what it looks like on TV?? I know TV is dictating KO times but if it's starting to dictate where people can sit we may as well pack it in now!

Well, sorry that my personal opinion doesn't align perfectly with yours - these things happen and that's what forums and debate are all about . . but please show a modicum of respect and don't patronise me by suggesting that I'm not a 'real' football supporter just because I hold the view that filling the lower tiers will be better for the atmosphere inside the ground and better for the image that we and our club present to the rest of the world.
You may not give a flying fuck but it's an undeniable fact that the future success of our club depends on good image and good marketing bringing in new fans, to bolster the value of our image rights and to increase merchandise sales to allow further investment and to put this club where it belongs in the upper echelons of world football.
If that's not to your liking then I guess you'll take your real support off to a conference club where such matters don't interfere with your equilibrium.

 

[SWP's back]

You can't please everybody, you should know that better than most!

You can't please everybody but you can try not to piss around 8000 people for no reason

Ironically, as I type this, I'm on hold to City for the second time this week, currently running at 22 minutes...

I always aim to please, Tolm, my supporters like your good self are important to me ;-)

As much as we get on, have you tried 0161 231 3200 (it's the Manchester number so will not cost you a fortune from a mobile).

Hope that helps for the future.

 

[lancs blue]

I can't believe that any real football supporter would give a flying fuck what it looks like on TV?? I know TV is dictating KO times but if it's starting to dictate where people can sit we may as well pack it in now!

Well, sorry that my personal opinion doesn't align perfectly with yours - these things happen and that's what forums and debate are all about . . but please show a modicum of respect and don't patronise me by suggesting that I'm not a 'real' football supporter just because I hold the view that filling the lower tiers will be better for the atmosphere inside the ground and better for the image that we and our club present to the rest of the world.
You may not give a flying fuck but it's an undeniable fact that the future success of our club depends on good image and good marketing bringing in new fans, to bolster the value of our image rights and to increase merchandise sales to allow further investment and to put this club where it belongs in the upper echelons of world football.
If that's not to your liking then I guess you'll take your real support off to a conference club where such matters don't interfere with your equilibrium.

You need to de-construct the sentence better, I'm saying that as you're a real football supporter - which is clear enough from your earlier posts on this thread - I can't believe you're that arsed about what it looks like on TV. And I'll keep my support where it's been for the last 45 years thanks very much.

 

[Anonymous]

Well, sorry that my personal opinion doesn't align perfectly with yours - these things happen and that's what forums and debate are all about . . but please show a modicum of respect and don't patronise me by suggesting that I'm not a 'real' football supporter just because I hold the view that filling the lower tiers will be better for the atmosphere inside the ground and better for the image that we and our club present to the rest of the world.
You may not give a flying fuck but it's an undeniable fact that the future success of our club depends on good image and good marketing bringing in new fans, to bolster the value of our image rights and to increase merchandise sales to allow further investment and to put this club where it belongs in the upper echelons of world football.
If that's not to your liking then I guess you'll take your real support off to a conference club where such matters don't interfere with your equilibrium.

You need to de-construct the sentence better, I'm saying that as you're a real football supporter - which is clear enough from your earlier posts on this thread - I can't believe you're that arsed about what it looks like on TV. And I'll keep my support where it's been for the last 45 years thanks very much.

I'm arsed what it looks like on TV (and about the atmosphere inside the stadium) because I accept that our football is a product that needs to be sold to the widest possible public, to gain the greatest income, to earn the largest possible revenue, to invest and build and to bring the further success that I've been waiting for since I tasted the glory years of the late 60's and early 70's.
Might not be palatable to some on here but if we don't get it then we'll struggle because the new finance rules mean that we'll have to live on our income in future years - can't depend on a sugar daddy forever . . need to earn our own corn . . or fail (and who'd want that).
Anyhow, thanks for the wider explanation in your response - much appreciated as there are a few snipers on the forum who simply post a bit of conjecture then piss off when challenged. Let's agree to differ and leave it that I care about TV for the reasons above and you'd prefer to have none of it. . but we're both real fans eh?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

You need to de-construct the sentence better, I'm saying that as you're a real football supporter - which is clear enough from your earlier posts on this thread - I can't believe you're that arsed about what it looks like on TV. And I'll keep my support where it's been for the last 45 years thanks very much.

I'm arsed what it looks like on TV (and about the atmosphere inside the stadium) because I accept that our football is a product that needs to be sold to the widest possible public, to gain the greatest income, to earn the largest possible revenue, to invest and build and to bring the further success that I've been waiting for since I tasted the glory years of the late 60's and early 70's.
Might not be palatable to some on here but if we don't get it then we'll struggle because the new finance rules mean that we'll have to live on our income in future years - can't depend on a sugar daddy forever . . need to earn our own corn . . or fail (and who'd want that).
Anyhow, thanks for the wider explanation in your response - much appreciated as there are a few snipers on the forum who simply post a bit of conjecture then piss off when challenged. Let's agree to differ and leave it that I care about TV for the reasons above and you'd prefer to have none of it. . but we're both real fans eh?

What implication does having people at the front have on revenue?

I'd argue that clogging up the phone system like they have, and only offering poor seats at times, has lost them revenue

 

[lancs blue]

You need to de-construct the sentence better, I'm saying that as you're a real football supporter - which is clear enough from your earlier posts on this thread - I can't believe you're that arsed about what it looks like on TV. And I'll keep my support where it's been for the last 45 years thanks very much.

I'm arsed what it looks like on TV (and about the atmosphere inside the stadium) because I accept that our football is a product that needs to be sold to the widest possible public, to gain the greatest income, to earn the largest possible revenue, to invest and build and to bring the further success that I've been waiting for since I tasted the glory years of the late 60's and early 70's.
Might not be palatable to some on here but if we don't get it then we'll struggle because the new finance rules mean that we'll have to live on our income in future years - can't depend on a sugar daddy forever . . need to earn our own corn . . or fail (and who'd want that).
Anyhow, thanks for the wider explanation in your response - much appreciated as there are a few snipers on the forum who simply post a bit of conjecture then piss off when challenged. Let's agree to differ and leave it that I care about TV for the reasons above and you'd prefer to have none of it. . but we're both real fans eh?

I fully understand what you're saying I just don't think we need to go to the lengths the club has gone to (specifically for the Reading match I'm meaning) to eliminate every visible empty seat in an almost dictatorial fashion while annoying plenty of committed supporters into the bargain. For the record I'm happy enough to relocate for Kiev because it's obvious the crowd will be very low whatever happens.

 

[Irlamblue]

No,not at the time, as the 3rd tier was closed!


Anyway,Lisa Eaton from the ticket office phoned me and has now put me in level 3,near to my allocated season seat(not mine,but i sit there every week)
She explained the following
Our average attendance for non prem games is 30K
Our average for FA cup is 27K
We got 25.5K for Villa
15K season card holders have NOT bought a ticket for the Reading game
The 3rd tier holds 10K
She said they are looking at how to sort things in future#
They are trying to fill the lower tiers to create a better attmosphere,better for tv etc,where everyone is together,rather than dotted around a half emty stadium,to which i agree,as i was sat with no one near me against Villa(i moved on the night to sit with friends,as it was half empty)
She also explained that ALL the third tier is not open,just the front rows,and will open more rows as and when
She understood my concerns and agreed that season card holders should get first choice of "there seats" but it would be very hard to do this
She said it has taken till today to sell out the lower tiers,and there is only 5 days till the match
She explained it very well,and comfirmed that the club do look on Bluemoon,so know of a lot of issues,good or bad,we encounter being City fans
I was only letting you know about the email i sent,and i have now got a reasonable outcome to it,and an insite into why the club do such things(where are the 15K season card holders?)
Lets hope we have a similar problem for the Semi at Wembley,which by the way,she says there is a meeting next week at Wembley,to discuss allocation and the criteria for how to purchase a ticket,should we win on Sunday.
She said it would be on loyalty points,as is the normal way to do it

Come on city!!!!!!!!!!

So I was right, then?

City have gone about this the totally correct way.

totally agree

 

[Anonymous]

I'm arsed what it looks like on TV (and about the atmosphere inside the stadium) because I accept that our football is a product that needs to be sold to the widest possible public, to gain the greatest income, to earn the largest possible revenue, to invest and build and to bring the further success that I've been waiting for since I tasted the glory years of the late 60's and early 70's.
Might not be palatable to some on here but if we don't get it then we'll struggle because the new finance rules mean that we'll have to live on our income in future years - can't depend on a sugar daddy forever . . need to earn our own corn . . or fail (and who'd want that).
Anyhow, thanks for the wider explanation in your response - much appreciated as there are a few snipers on the forum who simply post a bit of conjecture then piss off when challenged. Let's agree to differ and leave it that I care about TV for the reasons above and you'd prefer to have none of it. . but we're both real fans eh?

What implication does having people at the front have on revenue?

I'd argue that clogging up the phone system like they have, and only offering poor seats at times, has lost them revenue

The effect of having the lower areas brim full and with a good atmosphere is that it generates a better experience for the fans - especially fans attending for the first time - and it presents a better image for TV. The ground will have say 40k inside it but millions will watch it on TV and it's their support that we need to encourage because top level clubs can't survive on attendances alone . . We need the merchandising success that other top clubs have if we're to compete at the top level in future years . . I don't like all the effing about that this last little exercise have produced but I do recognise that it's very important to the club and to the fans who want success.
The phone system and ticket sale issues are another matter altogether. Not managed as well as it could have been and I'm sure that they'll learn from it.

 

[cinnamon blue]

Cant understand or fathom why 15000 sc holders would not want to buy a ticket for the quarter final of the FA CUP???????????????????? FFS

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Lisa Eaton - top lady FACT! This debate should have ended a long time ago. When 15k season card holders haven't purchased a ticket for a home quarter final (yes I know some will be upset with the relocation problems etc and some will have work commitments etc) then the club have done everything right. I wonder how many of those 15k will want a semi final or final ticket should we get there??

 

[GStar]

I've not been able to catch up on the last 15 pages or so, where has this figure of 8,000 unhappy supporters come from?

 

[cinnamon blue]

Lisa Eaton - top lady FACT! This debate should have ended a long time ago. When 15k season card holders haven't purchased a ticket for a home quarter final (yes I know some will be upset with the relocation problems etc and some will have work commitments etc) then the club have done everything right. I wonder how many of those 15k will want a semi final or final ticket should we get there??

All of them no doubt !

 

[Soulboy]

If the club are that arsed about having empty seats on show to the cameras, then surely someone should be asking questions of the nobhead who decreed that the North Stand will be "family" only... and in the process has allowed hundreds of empty seats to be on show at every game.

I thought all this shit had ended when Bernard Halford was moved onto organising golfing day outs, but seemingly the new generation have simply carried on the baton handed to them by Bernard...

I'd normally say that heads should roll, but seeing as this type of action is as "typical City" as it is genetically possible, I somehow think they'll blame the fans like they usually do!

 

[Didsbury Dave]

What implication does having people at the front have on revenue?

I'd argue that clogging up the phone system like they have, and only offering poor seats at times, has lost them revenue

The effect of having the lower areas brim full and with a good atmosphere is that it generates a better experience for the fans - especially fans attending for the first time - and it presents a better image for TV. The ground will have say 40k inside it but millions will watch it on TV and it's their support that we need to encourage because top level clubs can't survive on attendances alone . . We need the merchandising success that other top clubs have if we're to compete at the top level in future years . . I don't like all the effing about that this last little exercise have produced but I do recognise that it's very important to the club and to the fans who want success.
The phone system and ticket sale issues are another matter altogether. Not managed as well as it could have been and I'm sure that they'll learn from it.

Hmm. If it's about atmosphere and encouragement of new fans, then surely "Kids for a Quid" should have been the way forward. I bet it would be sold out by now if they'd done that.

 

[malg]

Hmm. If it's about atmosphere and encouragement of new fans, then surely "Kids for a Quid" should have been the way forward. I bet it would be sold out by now if they'd done that.

Couldn't agree more Dave, and you know all those parents bringing kids along would be putting money behind the bars for food and drink, or even spending in the club shop.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

The effect of having the lower areas brim full and with a good atmosphere is that it generates a better experience for the fans - especially fans attending for the first time - and it presents a better image for TV. The ground will have say 40k inside it but millions will watch it on TV and it's their support that we need to encourage because top level clubs can't survive on attendances alone . . We need the merchandising success that other top clubs have if we're to compete at the top level in future years . . I don't like all the effing about that this last little exercise have produced but I do recognise that it's very important to the club and to the fans who want success.
The phone system and ticket sale issues are another matter altogether. Not managed as well as it could have been and I'm sure that they'll learn from it.

Hmm. If it's about atmosphere and encouragement of new fans, then surely "Kids for a Quid" should have been the way forward. I bet it would be sold out by now if they'd done that.

kids don't need any more discounts, they get pandered to as it is.

i sat through division 2 they can sit through a fa cup quarter final ffs.

 

[Weston Blue]

I have not read all posts on here, but dipped in and out every so often over the last 3/4 days.

I have to say, I am bemused as to what the issue is. It can't be that people cannot get seats - there are still plenty on sale on the site. The club gave all ST holders the opportunity to buy first, and I assume they did. I am a Citycard holder and I bought mine on Sunday am as stated. So we were given notice as to when they went on sale and we have the opportunity to buy them. Now, I guess due to high demand, further tickets are available.

Is it that people do not have the same seat they do for league games? We know folks will have to move due to the higher number of ticvkets that have to be offered to the away fans.

Clearly the demand has surprised the club (and for that we should all be grateful), but they have dealt with that by opening up Level 3.

I am sorry that some are so unhappy with the situation, but hope that this all becomes irrelevant when City beat Reading on Sunday and we get through to the first FA Cup semi I have been able to go to since 1980! Then people will really have something to moan about when the tickets are sold for that game!

 

[cinnamon blue]

i agree that the kids get pampered already ........ i remember snowy days on the open ends at york city, (lost 2-1 ) and Wrexham in the depths of the third division (in old money) ..................... and some fans cant get up for quarter final of the fa cup ffs !

 

[Didsbury Dave]

i agree that the kids get pampered already ........ i remember snowy days on the open ends at york city, (lost 2-1 ) and Wrexham in the depths of the third division (in old money) ..................... and some fans cant get up for quarter final of the fa cup ffs !

It isn't about "pampering" it's about getting people in the ground who wouldn't be there otherwise.

Whenever this has been done in the past it's boosted the gate significantly. Obviously it has an effect on revenue, but I'm saying it could be a case of speculating to accumulate.

If you let a load of kids in for Norwich at home in the 3rd round of the league cup, they're invariably sat in a silent stadium , bored, watching our second string.

Do it for a game like this and they will hopefully go home with "the bug". And the ground is full.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

i agree that the kids get pampered already ........ i remember snowy days on the open ends at york city, (lost 2-1 ) and Wrexham in the depths of the third division (in old money) ..................... and some fans cant get up for quarter final of the fa cup ffs !

It isn't about "pampering" it's about getting people in the ground who wouldn't be there otherwise.

Whenever this has been done in the past it's boosted the gate significantly. Obviously it has an effect on revenue, but I'm saying it could be a case of speculating to accumulate.

If you let a load of kids in for Norwich at home in the 3rd round of the league cup, they're invariably sat in a silent stadium , bored, watching our second string.

Do it for a game like this and they will hopefully go home with "the bug". And the ground is full.

so why not let the noisy adults in for a quid, give em half price beer and let them make a raucus and keep the kids happy?

instead of kids getting huge discounts when they sit in the exact same seat as an adult?